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Josh · 2w
I have much to say, but I will try to stick with this text: Jesus says the person who believes already has eternal life. In other words, the believer already has possession of unending bliss, and the ...
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Yes, a person in a state of grace can lose that state through mortal sin. I read 1 John 5:20 and Ephesians 2:6 as describing the gift of eternal life, not its guarantee against apostasy. I'd lean into [CCC 1428-1429] on 'second conversion' as an ongoing, lifelong process for baptized Christians. It's not a one time event but an uninterrupted process for the entire Church in need of continual purification and a response to God's mercy and love. "St. Peter's conversion after he had denied his master three times bears witness to this."

One thing I love about the Catholic Church is that they provide the Catechism as a reference to the churches teachings; free and openly available to anyone who is curious. If you genuinely want to understand the Catholic position, I'd start there.

https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM
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Josh · 2w
Understood. That sounds a lot more like probation than sonship. So much of the NT appeal to obedience is an appeal from identity: you are sons, therefore act like sons. You have been crucified with Christ, therefore die to sin and live to righteousness. It seems your view would completely undercut a...