@nprofile1q... in my case the meds are already doing a LOT of heavy lifting. there is one chemical solution I know for sure would help to some degree (kratom), but insurance doesn't cover it, it causes physical dependence, and the government keeps threatening to ban it. I quit taking it a little under a year ago because I didn't want to go thru an unscheduled detox at the whim of the state, and don't have the cash to always keep a large amount on hand to mitigate that issue.