@nprofile1q... : that’s incredible how you become a total hermit simply for not wanting to submit 100% to Google or Apple. Banks, adminstrations cannot even conceive that some of their citizens don’t have a Google account nor want to install yet one more app.

Even GrapheneOS itself consider "more secure" to create a gmail account and run those services on your phones (even if in containers).

Even our most brilliant engineers are incredibly short-sighted…