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I'm now completely convinced that this entire drawdown - which may have been started by API problems on Binance, but if it hadn't have been that it would have been something else - is all about liquidating bitcoin backed loans.

It's a terrible incentive sitting out there in the market. A HUGE pot of bitcoin that is suddenly up for grabs at LOWER prices. And this world is full of rich people who want our coins.

If you needed liquidity above $100k you had two options, sell or take a loan out. Of course there were lots of companies eager to sell you the dream of getting liquidity without selling your bitcoin, unfortunately that's all that is, a dream.

We've been sold a lie that bitcoin is the best possible collateral because it's liquid 24/7! Well sure that makes it amazing...FOR THE LENDER! For the borrower it just puts a target on your back.

You thought you were a hardcore hodler, but you just posted your coins for sale at $58k! And guess what? There are buyers who want that deal!

We're going to go down until every reasonably accessible bitcoin being held as collateral is freed up and sold to someone that ain't one of us! If you avoided taking out a loan, congrats! If somehow you have some dry powder now, amazing, you deserve these cheap sats.

If you're looking at liquidation even anywhere in the 50's, I'd consider cutting your losses and closing your loan with collateral. If you can get your margin call price into the 40's I would hope you would be safe, but who knows. There are no rules in a truly free market.
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Matt - Kind 1 Sisyphus · 32w
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Send_it_Mike: F**k this War · 32w
There was an episode with Preston about 2 years ago where someone from Cantor was on they were basically asked if you understand Bitcoin, why lend people money against Bitcoin when you could be buying Bitcoin with that money. And they essentially said if you get Bitcoin from liquidation events you p...
𝖋𝖎𝖆𝖙𝖉𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖊𝖗 (¯`◕‿◕´¯) · 32w
Stay humble and stack sats. Nowhere does it say to put your bitcoin up to borrow some fiat at 10% interest.
Earnest Holden · 32w
The best possible collateral has always been from the lender’s perspective. Bitcoin continues to teach broader society that if you can’t afford to do something without leverage, then there is a good chance you simply can’t afford it.
McCoy · 32w
just work harder to avoid for selling. Then you don't need a loan and you don't have to sell.
El Zeta · 32w
Totally agree
michael · 32w
brutal out there - thanks for your take 🫡
Comte de Sats Germain · 32w
Price of tuition, everyone pays it somehow, whether its shitcoins or loans
₿jorn ⚡️ · 32w
Liquid 24/7 also means Liquidated 24/7. Let’s avoid playing with leverage.. hehe
Leo Wandersleb · 32w
But to drop the price, somebody must be short selling which in itself comes with a huge risk 🤷‍♂️
Bitcoin Awareness · 32w
You are right that lending companies incentives are against Bitcoin, but the lower purchase power of it now (the drawdown) is due to us not focusing on educate normies about money.
Brisket · 32w
Yeah - I picked up a loan last August & I agree with what you're saying. It's a small loan but there is no price that bitcoin cannot go to. Price is set on the margins. The thing that catches most offside is that as the price drops, extra collateral provides increasingly less value to prop up the...
SimOne · 32w
Play fiat games, win fiat prizes.
nostrich · 32w
Don't say you haven't been warned. nostr:nevent1qqsqtjer9swx5a7575mys6k9l03f9yknq437mcqnvkx4n28esuq4hjgpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzpm0rm9thwnjat3ukvj6m2r6nzu8fqfxhdjgdn872jvj28nyhj5uzqvzqqqqqqyyachnc
Jake Woodhouse · 32w
Solid point And could well be the case Fascinating isn’t it I almost have nostr:nprofile1qqsd0uazmzmhwseeym3rjhf3txyjapreapc6sq8yq8cy07cg45tlx2cpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq35amnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wdaexzmn8v4cxjmrv9ejx2asecnyk8 in my head saying “if you don’t want to sell your Bitcoin,...
Thomas · 32w
You definetely have a point here. That was part of this massive sell off. Not sure if it was the only one since things often are not one dimensional.
Tauri | Bitcoin (XBT) · 32w
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JP · 32w
I thought I could have it all. Nope. Liquidated at 65 then another loan again at 61. Loan seemed perfect... I thought I took it out near the bottom at the time with only blue skies ahead... boy was I wrong. Lesson learned the hard way. I should have listed to Odell and stayed humble and stacked sat...
Joseph Hurtado · 32w
Would Bitcoin bounce over the weekend or are we heading to 40 K and what looks like a BigFinance engineered collapse of Bitcoin aka a Black Swan event?