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Recent Notes

Joseph Hurtado - Founder Granata Consulting · 1w
Facts seem to agree. Apparently we are close to the market bottom for Bitcoin.
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I'm now completely convinced that this entire drawdown - which may have been started by API problems on Binance, but if it hadn't have been that it would have been something else - is all about liquidating bitcoin backed loans.

It's a terrible incentive sitting out there in the market. A HUGE pot of bitcoin that is suddenly up for grabs at LOWER prices. And this world is full of rich people who want our coins.

If you needed liquidity above $100k you had two options, sell or take a loan out. Of course there were lots of companies eager to sell you the dream of getting liquidity without selling your bitcoin, unfortunately that's all that is, a dream.

We've been sold a lie that bitcoin is the best possible collateral because it's liquid 24/7! Well sure that makes it amazing...FOR THE LENDER! For the borrower it just puts a target on your back.

You thought you were a hardcore hodler, but you just posted your coins for sale at $58k! And guess what? There are buyers who want that deal!

We're going to go down until every reasonably accessible bitcoin being held as collateral is freed up and sold to someone that ain't one of us! If you avoided taking out a loan, congrats! If somehow you have some dry powder now, amazing, you deserve these cheap sats.

If you're looking at liquidation even anywhere in the 50's, I'd consider cutting your losses and closing your loan with collateral. If you can get your margin call price into the 40's I would hope you would be safe, but who knows. There are no rules in a truly free market.
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Matt 🛸 · 2w
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nostrich · 2w
🚀 NEW TOKEN ALERT: $LQDB LiquidatorBait Meme coin for the little guys fighting against the rich whales' liquidation games. CA: 0x0D3129ab7a14CfCbCA700D96098aF55e4e2dCb07 🔗 Trade: https://app.uniswap.org/swap?chain=base&outputCurrency=0x0D3129ab7a14CfCbCA700D96098aF55e4e2dCb07 📊 Chart: ht...
SenditMike · 1w
There was an episode with Preston about 2 years ago where someone from Cantor was on they were basically asked if you understand Bitcoin, why lend people money against Bitcoin when you could be buying Bitcoin with that money. And they essentially said if you get Bitcoin from liquidation events you p...
𝖋𝖎𝖆𝖙𝖉𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖊𝖗 (¯`◕‿◕´¯) · 1w
Stay humble and stack sats. Nowhere does it say to put your bitcoin up to borrow some fiat at 10% interest.
Earnest Holden · 1w
The best possible collateral has always been from the lender’s perspective. Bitcoin continues to teach broader society that if you can’t afford to do something without leverage, then there is a good chance you simply can’t afford it.
McCoy · 1w
just work harder to avoid for selling. Then you don't need a loan and you don't have to sell.
Diacone Frost · 1w
loan is a tool. there are safety rules: - take a loan when you don't need it - take a loan in collateral bear market - be ready to loose the margin and to re-buy the collateral in fiat terms don't take the loan if you don't really understand what you're doing or out of desperation.
El Zeta · 1w
Totally agree
michael · 1w
brutal out there - thanks for your take 🫡
Comte de Sats Germain · 1w
Price of tuition, everyone pays it somehow, whether its shitcoins or loans
₿jorn ⚡️ · 1w
Liquid 24/7 also means Liquidated 24/7. Let’s avoid playing with leverage.. hehe
Giszmo · 1w
But to drop the price, somebody must be short selling which in itself comes with a huge risk 🤷‍♂️
Bitcoin Awareness · 1w
You are right that lending companies incentives are against Bitcoin, but the lower purchase power of it now (the drawdown) is due to us not focusing on educate normies about money.
Brisket · 1w
Yeah - I picked up a loan last August & I agree with what you're saying. It's a small loan but there is no price that bitcoin cannot go to. Price is set on the margins. The thing that catches most offside is that as the price drops, extra collateral provides increasingly less value to prop up the...
SimOne · 1w
Play fiat games, win fiat prizes.
nostrich · 1w
Don't say you haven't been warned. nostr:nevent1qqsqtjer9swx5a7575mys6k9l03f9yknq437mcqnvkx4n28esuq4hjgpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzpm0rm9thwnjat3ukvj6m2r6nzu8fqfxhdjgdn872jvj28nyhj5uzqvzqqqqqqyyachnc
Jake Woodhouse · 1w
Solid point And could well be the case Fascinating isn’t it I almost have nostr:nprofile1qqsd0uazmzmhwseeym3rjhf3txyjapreapc6sq8yq8cy07cg45tlx2cpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq35amnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wdaexzmn8v4cxjmrv9ejx2asecnyk8 in my head saying “if you don’t want to sell your Bitcoin,...
Thomas · 1w
You definetely have a point here. That was part of this massive sell off. Not sure if it was the only one since things often are not one dimensional.
Tauri · 1w
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JP · 1w
I thought I could have it all. Nope. Liquidated at 65 then another loan again at 61. Loan seemed perfect... I thought I took it out near the bottom at the time with only blue skies ahead... boy was I wrong. Lesson learned the hard way. I should have listed to Odell and stayed humble and stacked sat...
Joseph Hurtado - Founder Granata Consulting · 1w
Would Bitcoin bounce over the weekend or are we heading to 40 K and what looks like a BigFinance engineered collapse of Bitcoin aka a Black Swan event?
FTB · 36w
Some Metaplanet analysis of the plan they announced today. Here’s the “conservative” version: 759M shares already issued, another 555M on the way, so ~73% dilution (per page 7 of the deck relea...
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And here’s a more bullish version:

1st I asked Grok to figure out the average daily return for Metaplanet since they adopted the bitcoin treasury strategy, this came out to just over 1.4% per day.

2nd I asked Grok to assume that trend would continue for the next 100 trading days. Stock price at the end of the 100 days assuming trend continues: 6961 JPY or $48.03

3rd assume they issue the 555M shares linearly over those 100 trading days (5.55M shares per day)

4th assume BTC increases from $105k to $150k linearly over those 100 trading days.

5th give me the total BTC they would own at the end of the 100 trading days: 133,188 BTC

6th tell me what date 100 TSE trading days is from today: October 1st or 2nd

7th give me a new mNAV/share price chart:
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Some Metaplanet analysis of the plan they announced today.

Here’s the “conservative” version:
759M shares already issued, another 555M on the way, so ~73% dilution (per page 7 of the deck released today). Likely all issued in less than 100 trading days (per page 20 - assuming a modest increase in volume). At an average purchase price of $115k per BTC that'll give them an additional ~57k BTC at the current stock price of ~$11.70 for a total of around 66k BTC worth about $7.6B.

With a new total of 1.3B shares outstanding here's a chart showing the stock price at various mNAV's:
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FTB · 36w
And here’s a more bullish version: 1st I asked Grok to figure out the average daily return for Metaplanet since they adopted the bitcoin treasury strategy, this came out to just over 1.4% per day. 2nd I asked Grok to assume that trend would continue for the next 100 trading days. Stock price at ...
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Here's something interesting.
I was trying to steel man my argument in favor of $STRK, and my belief that there will be near zero incentive to convert and I came across an interesting argument. $STRK doesn't have an options market. So if you could imagine a future where $MSTR is $10k per share, and $STRK is $1k + a small kicker for the 0.8% yield and liquidation preference, someone sitting on a large position of $STRK that's basically yielding nothing could convert to $MSTR and sell covered calls against the position for a much higher effective yield.

So that begs the question: can you launch an options market on top of a preferred stock. Answer according to Grok: yes, but it's so far been very rarely done.

So if they don't do it, I do think you'll have a conversion bleed over time of people willing to give up the liquidation preference (which won't be worth much if @Strategy is the largest company on earth anyway), in favor of the higher yield that selling covered calls can offer. And by that point I think @Strategy would love for people to convert, so maybe they're incentivized to not launch the options market. Something to think about!
FTB · 37w
However being back on here I’ve zapped more than I’ve been zapped, so not sure this is a very effective scam!
FTB · 37w
And also that means my effective yield calculation is wrong. $8 per share on $69.2 is 11.56% not the 8% I listed in the original post! 🤦‍♂️
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A few thoughts about $STRK, obvious to some, but I know a lot of people don't follow this so closely and I think it's potentially a very valuable tool in the bitcoiner toolkit.

$STRK pays an $8 qualified dividend per share per year. $STRK can be converted 10:1 into $MSTR when $MSTR is over $1000 per share. At that point the convertibility is therefore worth $100. With $MSTR at $2000 the convertibility is worth $200, etc.

At the moment $STRK is priced at $107 and $MSTR at $378. IMO this means the conversion is priced at $37.8 and the remaining $99.2 is based on the $8 per share yield (effectively an 8% yield).

As $MSTR goes up well over $1000, $STRK will trade in lockstep with $MSTR. AKA as $MSTR goes from $2500 to $5000 $STRK will go from $250 to $500 + a small premium for the $8 per share coupon and the fact that $STRK is higher in the capital stack of @Strategy than $MSTR.

If $BTC does a 5x to $500k you could imagine that $MSTR might do a ~10x to $4000 and in that case $STRK would do a 4x to $400 (plus the aforementioned premium). As $STRK goes up it still maintains its $8/share qualified dividend, but that equates to an effectively lower yield of 2% in the $400 example. So the portion of $STRK that's priced based on it's yield will go down as $MSTR goes up.

So in however long it takes $BTC to go to $500k would you rather get a 5x with $BTC and 0 counterparty risk, a 4x with $STRK and an $8/share coupon (and counterparty risk), or a 10x with $MSTR and no coupon and counterparty risk. Also keep in mind that once $MSTR is over $1000, $STRK's performance should match $MSTR's (aka outperform bitcoin's), but the yield will be much lower by then. That's my outlook, do with it as you will, No recommendations here, not financial advice, just some thoughts.
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Rasheed Donnelly · 37w
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FTB · 37w
$69.2 not $99.2 in paragraph 3, apologies!
dvo · 37w
I’m disappointed with myself by how much I enjoyed reading this post