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Simple Mail Transfer Protocol "SMTP" ended up being rather captured/centralized toward an oligopoly over time in an effort to manage spam.

Here's another #asknostr for today:

What aspects of Nostr's design will make it more resistant to that fate? The social graph web of trust element?
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Icarus · 115w
This seems relevant. nostr:nevent1qqspan77gpckmnp4gelqszukdhvp564d74uje9v98pee52kfyk93umcpzemhxue69uhkummnw3ezuan4d3cx2mfwvdhk6qghwaehxw309ahx7um5wghxcmmswqh8xmmrd9skcqghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3exjcmg9ejx2qgawaehxw309ahx7um5wgkhqatz9emk2mrvdaexgetj9ehx2aq2yuch9
Wyatt O’Rourke · 115w
This centralization sucks. I host my own email and it almost always goes to people spam. Its like a tax for trying to be sovereign.
atyh · 115w
We tend to defer too much to corporations and influencers (which are icons of centralization) smtp didn’t fail. People are short sighted. If nostr fails in that direction, it won’t have been the protocol, it will have been the people.
Petr · 115w
Either private relays that would penalize users introducing spam Or some proof of work/ cost introduction. Cost itself will not prevent it but rather reduce volume.
Fulfillment Obi · 115w
It's very simple For example The government provides security but we all have to take security precautions to help ourselves So everyone should learn how to protect themselves, identify spam account report them to the protocole and everyone can block them individually Like there should be li...
tank · 115w
Unfortunately it will likely face the same challenges as other federated protocols. Moxie had a great talk about this in 2021: https://youtu.be/DdM-XTRyC9c?feature=shared
Tim Bouma · 115w
Definitely the close association with payments (zaps and Cashu tokens). Must easier to impose a cost and/or generate revenue. Also, keeping the relays as dumb as possible, similar to dumb internet routers that can’t inspect packets.
btconboard #LNHANCE or #CTV · 115w
Similar to other comments, some sort of payment required to use. Via Cashu could be pretty cheap and easy.
Keychat · 115w
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rare · 115w
It doesn't. Everyday people will not run a relay. Just like many people don't run a node. The market for NOSTR is very niche and based on idealism, not practicality. If NOSTR is going to stay a sub-sub-sub-sub-culture within a sub-sub-culture, then it needs more users: - Running relays - Improv...
makeasnek · 115w
People complain that "not everybody will run a relay", well, why is that? Because the architecture of the network and the UX of the software doesn't automatically do it for them. Why is running a relay not automatic when running a client? It could be. Every client could be a relay.
jared · 115w
Is the list of people you follow also a list of people you trust? Mine isn’t… Ring 0 is me. Ring 1 is people I trust enough to help me recover my life savings. Ring 2 is friends and family that didn’t make it to ring 1. Ring 3 is people whose opinions/memes/shitposts I’m interested in r...
zach · 115w
https://youtu.be/_KRUQHyQzWM
shadow06 · 115w
I'm more interested in taking that control back. It centralized due to cost, not spam. Spamassassin is a very effective open source tool. The problem now is everyone blocks port 25 (cloud providers) so we're forced to "relay" through sendgrid/mailchimp. These days 1GB of storage costs $1/mo. Anyone ...
StackSats.IO · 115w
Bitcoin. It’s the part that can’t be faked
0xD43m0n · 115w
The fact setting a mail server is a pain in the ass, but a nostr relay is basically "plug & play" meaning almost everyone can deploy a personal relay.