Not to be an arsehole about it, but you do give implicit permission if Ring says it provides this "Service" when you sign up and install their product. Don't want this, don't install it.

Time to ditch!

I hate these things, everyone seems to have them too. They may be announcing this officially now, but they've happily admitted to selling all user data to third parties since their inception. State intelligence is a third party. Backdoor 1984 style surveillance and the masses have no idea.

I love how the article says “will give users the option to share their data” then ends with “will be turned on by default”. Like who will know this is even a thing without looking into it

Not installing one of those 1984 devices People actually pay for those!

This is insane!

*Any* camera I see, I assume streams to "the cloud" as 99% do and there is nothing but promises to the owner of the cam but how would others know where that data goes? I bought cams that I didn't end up installing as it was too cumbersome to make sure the data stays on premise.

It's best to just assume that all the closed-source devices, web-services, etc. that you use are surveilling (and will eventually leak) whatever of your data they may have access to (i.e. whatever data you can't verify that they don't have access). So, unless you're comfortable walking around naked...

And how many more people willingly have Alexa (from the same company) listening in to every sound and conversation in their homes - not just outside the front door.

I use and strongly recommend Ubiquiti as a self-hosted on-prem video doorbell (and more generally, surveillance) system. PoE or WiFi. https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/cameras-doorbells https://blossom.primal.net/5769f69a55a1595fe5eed222d399ca9223a1c6c50afb3ed7abf8a310f2657f97.png

And today they are down with AWS

As if that is news to anybody. Fools.

Getting you to work for the surveillance state. Nice.

Yeah but last night I was watching possums in my cherry tree with my ring cam. Worth it.

Ya that's a no Brainer

I get my home surveillance devices from china, Alhua, way more private than all the cloud options

Only if you’re an NPC

wasn't it always like that?