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Enough of the quantum slop already. We need actual quantum computing engineers or physicists to chime in to the quantum debates in Bitcoin.

While tens of thousands of real physicists work on quantum computing, we're forced to listen to pleb slop keyboard warriors who maybe read 3 papers on the subject and have stronger opinions that the world's best experts.

This is embarrassing, dangerous, and certainly not how we resolve this debate.

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Kajoozie Maflingo · 13w

quantum computers can't factor 21. sha256 is safe

3 papers is generous

PhD physical scientist here -- not in the quantum area, but with some familiarity. Best take I've heard based on my own "partially informed" understanding of both fields is -- (a) it's a concern but (b) it's not an imminent threat. This field isn't anything like modern semiconductors where you hav...

Nah, this is exactly how we resolve this debate. The experts are free to weigh in, but I'm sick of hearing these kinds of appeals to authority. Everyone can have an opinion. Nostr exists for people to talk about things. Deal with it.

pistachio3 · 13w

Someone needs to have a recorded conversation with nostr:nprofile1qqsrcn632cfyx5j0xpld9m389370ffuzgp8muwshvcrqgwm26sn7uacpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujucm4wfex2mn59en8j6gpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ez6un9d3shjtnhd3m8xtnnwpskxeg7cpv0v because I need the laymen’s understanding of his thesis that bitcoin is the quantu...

Sérgio Oliveira · 13w

are you going to listen to the world's best experts on economics for their advice on the bitcoin monetary policy too?

Or...we could ignore the debate and focus our mental energy on things that matter. I think about it in the same way that I do the Bitcoin Carbon Emissions debate. In short, I don't. People are getting to used to being pulled this way and that, told what they should worry about etc. I'm too lazy to g...

Yes. Invite all the Q phys peeps to Nashville next year.

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ThatWhichisNotSeen · 13w

Did you catch this AMA on Stacker News ? https://stacker.news/items/1477467/r/ThatWhichisNotSeen

Jack Madison · 13w

Double-spend? https://blossom.primal.net/c7941c500a2dda72ca66753e62692a67d24967b6c77d855bdcddb182d29740b2.jpg

I agree. The problem is the physics experts don’t understand Bitcoin, and the Bitcoin experts don’t understand it either. Nobody does.

Guy Chatting · 13w

polvo397 · 13w

This is actually what happens with most important subjects in like every topic. One huge reason why social media platforms are so shit and toxic, in my opinion.

Matthew D · 13w

And then we put the plebs on stage at our biggest conference with the most reach and have them argue. Agree here, we need the quantum guys talking to the cryptographers and actually gaming this out.

Well, TBH, I’ll ignore the experts as well. Until someone demonstrates moving Satoshi’s coins with a quantum computer it’s all just meant to scare me out of my sats anyhow(I’m not scared). I have more important things to do, like sit on my patio and watch the leaves rustle in the wind. ...

They have and do chime in. There's just really not much to say at the current stage of hardware development because as long as your key is >5 bits a conventional computer is a much bigger threat. Nothing has practically changed since Satoshi was here. Is there a threat? Sure. Is it imminent? No. B...

Who are currently the best people to learn from?

Resonance Cascade · 13w

Real physicists, as opposed to anonymous developers.

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Zero-Knowledge Goof · 13w

Nah no need for anyone to chime in. Compute something with a quantum computer or stfu.

BitcoinSandy · 13w

I thought we owned the Science

That’s an “appeal to authority” logical fallacy. Quantum needs evidence for it’s extraordinary claims: We don’t freak out about teleportation but that tech would be even more disruptive. The quantum threat isn’t proven. The recent ‘15-bit encryption cracked’ experiment turned out...

⚡₿it₿y₿it⚡ · 13w

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pgsdesign · 13w

Now do Nostr wannabe doctors spewing their ignorant nonsense 😂

Séimí Mac Síomón · 13w

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