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Internet search is getting very bad.

This is not even the classic comment about how Google Search has become worse. I think it's just that the internet is much bigger now and the "global view" paradigm is not helping.

One issue I'm hitting all the time now: I know a thing exists, I know its name, but search engines can't find it because there are way too many things with that same name showing up first.

Sometimes it's not a lot of things, it's just one thing, but that thing has hundreds of webpages, videos, news articles associated with it and they all show up first.

Maybe they don't even show up first, maybe they're not even more popular (ignore the fact that popularity being a criteria is already fundamentally broken) than the thing I searched for, but just by their massive number they come mixed with the results I actually care about and still clutter everything.

Giving more context in the search doesn't work as it gets ignored always, and maybe this is the part that could be improved.

By the way: AI isn't fixing it because AI still relies on classic search engines.
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LWB · 3d
I feel you! It's at least 4 months that I want to find this European metal band. I know there is a woman as a front end, I know how their most popular video is filmed, I know that in their name there is the former name of the band, but for the love of god I cannot find. All the AIs suggest the same ...
flake.nix · 3d
Popularity is also hugely inflated by AI as its knowledge of something is dictated by that things frequency in its training set
Ghost Mode · 3d
I've been dealing with this for months while doing research. You know the term. You know it exists. You know exactly what you're looking for. And yet the search engine buries it under everything louder, newer, and more popular. Context doesn't always save you either. Sometimes it feels like it's ...
Abstract Equilibrium · 3d
What you want is AskJeeves... hand-curated, familiar, simple.
John · 3d
In case you haven’t heard, Kagi is considered the best search engine these days. There’s a free trial but it’s paid, which aligns the incentives to list the most relevant and highest quality results, unbiased and ad free. And they’re great advocates of a better internet and have partnershi...
Joe Resident · 3d
I would say given AI's incredible ability to quickly ingest large amounts of unstructured data, it certainly could help. But only by maybe 1000x what a human could filter through themselves, if done naively, which isn't much given the ballooning amount of content like you said. The search engine ign...
Nasty Capitalist 🚀 🏴‍☠️ · 3d
I have the theory that people at Google only invented those transformer LLMs because they realized it won't be possible to find anything anymore without it
jk · 2d
man you are so naive.
Ava Tharr · 2d
Search has always struggled between structured data and full text. I wonder whether conversations provide a third index. I may not remember the exact words or even the name, but I often remember where the idea appeared, what we were discussing and who reacted to it. That context could help with both...