holokat on nostr

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Hypothetical: the powers that be come after all the clients, all the relays they can, all at once.

How does nostr survive that?

De-platforming from app stores. Domain takedowns (take down web apps). Severe legal threats to relay operators.

What keeps nostr afloat then? Will everyone just post from localhost? Is there a newbie friendly home-spun relay option?

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Thats like taking down bitcoin.. same thi g with nostr. Tbey cant.

The Beave · 102w

More people will be able to run a relay off their phone not too eventually. I'll be running a relay via umbrel in the next few months.

Competent Coyote · 102w

Nostr will survive but its users will drop off a cliff. It'll grow back as necessity increases.

⚡️ gTeL ☕ · 102w

I was thinking about it today. May be if Nostr clients start using a network protocol like Bitcoin Core, which everyone is a relay that exchanges messages with peers discovered by a gossip protocol.

I can only say that there won't be such an extreme situation. One country will have such censorship, but not all countries will. Because nostr is not anti-human, but it is to save everyone. It's just that we need to build clients and relays in different places to resist such single-point obstacles. ...

I am trying to get @cloudfodders relay.tools deployable on proxmox so node runners can host from home. Relay runners today should currently just make sure they backup anything they care about (probably not just notes). Someone should probably chaos monkey this... Anyway with a smaller relay to just ...

TheGrinder · 102w

"Is there a newbie friendly home-spun relay option?" I guess nostr-tray is a decent option for noobies but don't know how many clients support it. I got it running with noStrudel and it's fast af plus I have a copy of my events local. As for de-platforming and crackdowns. It will be a lost war si...

Sandāgoriate サンダーゴリアテ · 102w

Hey Karnage, I was about to ask for that. What are the best privacy Nostr clients this now? Would be cool a website that do a ranking for Nostr clients using some criterias like "privacy", "user interface", "data starage/library", "decentralized level", wtc. etc.

vinney...axkl · 102w

every individual needs to be running personal servers, hosting their own content. domain takedowns impossible. PWAs over native apps. https://vaporware.network

Chad Lupkes · 102w

We're in a race against time to prevent that. And we don't have the option of losing.

ASL Terp + Teach · 102w

If/when this is figured out, hopefully some plebs will make an easy step-by-step guide for non-tech savvy types to follow + set up our own relays 🤞

shinz0n · 102w

Nostr relay connection via Tor should solve this issue.

calvadev⚡️ · 101w

Tor, torrents, and localhost seem like the likeliest solution to this.