LynAlden on nostr

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@LynAlden 1724799008

For those of you who are still on Twitter, I had a long debate thread today with Parker Lewis about Nostr. I'm a big fan of Parker, so I figured I'd share it here for shared learning.

Here's the latest post. I'm not sure it'll be the last or not but it's the latest one as of this writing. You can scroll up to see the exchange from the start.
https://x.com/LynAldenContact/status/1828553130717442443

Linking to my own post in isolation is bad form and the thumbnail is awkward depending on what client you're using, so I'll also provide a pic of the start of the debate too, with two posts of his and one of mine.

I'd be open to any thoughts about this debate.

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'they're' forcing us to learn and adapt to survive.

Cameri🐦‍🔥 · 83w

They’ll essentially curtail that Nostr CEO’s freedoms, but the rest of the network will remain unaffected. Good luck catching them all ✌️

Not every app will even have a CEO. Also Parker just dropped the 'swarm' argument on the floor.

John Christensen · 83w

This situation seems like a clear sign that governments are gradually losing their grip on control. As they continue to print more money, their resources diminish, leaving them increasingly stretched thin. They end up spending most of their energy trying to suppress emerging technologies and ideas. ...

Parker is just one of many btc guys who don’t “get” nostr. I don’t really understand how they don’t see the parallels but … alas

NotBiebs and 69 others · 83w

Don’t mind him. He got NDS. 😂

His perspective on nostr resonates with how I feel about it. Nostr may have the bones to be a very powerful tool on the internet, but it has yet to find a first product market fit to drive people to use the protocol. I don’t think a replica of current social media will do the trick, it needs a nov...

Amethyst isn't a company as far as I know. Many nostr implementations are just open source projects.

StackSats.IO · 83w

Apps can be built with Nostrocket so teams can easily be geographically distributed and there’s no centralised point for any government to go after. Arresting CEOs isn’t the big problem though - governments of “liberal democracies” trying to censor speech is, and for that there is absolutel...

Freedom First Bitcoiner · 83w

Thanks nostr:npub1a2cww4kn9wqte4ry70vyfwqyqvpswksna27rtxd8vty6c74era8sdcw83a I appreciate your take and think (even though it might be years away) Nostr is the future of free speech!

HatingBoomer ⚡️ 🟠 · 83w

Money is a prime example of the Byzantine Generals Problem. There is no way you can ensure a concerted effort of groups when a system is non-byzantine. This concept goes beyond currency, and is the key behind dismantling illegitimate power structures. Built on bitcoin is the future.

El Flaco · 83w

He's correct, nostr doesn't fix CEOs getting arrested. But his point is also moot because targeting CEOs of nostr apps, even of big ones, will never have the disruptive return for governments that the arrest of a centralized platform's CEO has, mostly because switching costs are close to zero for no...

Although governments will not be able to arrest all the CEOs of Nostr app companies and kill the network, couldn’t they threaten to arrest smart phone companies to not allow Nostr apps, which could effectively kill it?

Jack Spirko · 83w

Parker is smarter then he is playing, he trolled you.

BoomTown · 83w

(Can’t see the thread if you don’t have a Twitter account…)

Linking to X is bad form Lyn. Nostr party foul

He is not wrong. They can keep arresting all the CEOs but our contents and free speech stay here forever. That’s what we want. For content creators we can’t imagine if they lose their contents it’s like end of the world. I love NOSTR

Schlemmer Maul · 83w

Don’t let good enough be the enemy of perfect. There are no solutions just tradeoffs. I like nostr’s chances! Arrest CEOs all you want, this post will still get relayed, lol. Not really much to debate here actually.

Narwhal Tacos · 83w

Appreciate the post. Appreciate the argument. Appreciate you. The central thesis here is that, imo, arguing against Nostr is arguing against the strongest player in the game. And no team doesn’t hire the strongest player, even knowing the future is uncertain. As a 25+ year investment advisor, I ...

davesoma · 83w

They will try to cut off a few heads, Until people realize that Nation States are a market which, like every market, can be arbitraged. The hydra is antifragile and can't be defeated.

I think these 2 points summed up your rebuttal of what nostr:npub1w69ya7xs697hk3hky3gllryz8rwverfa0ylz89chf9qnhfcskc2s64zltw was trying to get at: On fixing CEOs getting arrested: “I do think Nostr de-incentivizes app CEOs from getting arrested since it's way less impactful on the network and th...

He seems to be solely focused on CEO being arrested. It sounds like he is not considering that the CEO of telegram was arrested because he was a single point of failure. Not only because he didn't censor "Nostr CEOs" could be arrested for not censoring, but IMO its a lot less likely since none of u...

roll_the_dice · 83w

Why do so many nostr users think bitcoin does anything to fix the problem of a CEO getting arrested for not censoring their wallet app?

Lyn, I’m new to Nostr and I really appreciated your points about it with Parker Lewis. Also, loved your book and really helped expand my view of the importance of these kind of technologies inside and outside the US.

TheWay Home · 83w

Lyn, I think Bitcoiners see it because of understanding concepts like 'Bitcoin is nowhere and everywhere at the same time' and the importance of a protocol not having a CEO who similar to a Bitcoin $5 wrench attack is just too easy a target for beaurocrats to display their power and control over. P...

Dave🐸 · 82w

Narrator: it was not Parker’s last tweet about nostr FUD. 😂

he doesn’t want to learn, he wants to affirm his existing bias. Parker can stick with Elon’s db if he thinks it’s best and we’ll let the chips fall where they may.