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Lyn Alden
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Here’s an observation about shitty Twitter algorithms.

I’ve actually never blocked or muted anyone on Twitter. Never felt the need. 690k followers, countless comments, no filters.

If someone is an ass, I tend to just ignore them or akido them and move on.

I just went over to Twitter and checked my notifications. Some guy posted in an unusually negative way in one of my threads. For a brief moment, I was provoked. But then I looked: he has 8,700 posts and 6 followers. Briefly skimming his profile, it is pure negativity. Imagine this. Like actually take a moment to think about what that process feels like for him, let alone how he impacts others.

Posting eight thousand and seven hundred times, mostly negatively, and after well more than a thousand of those posts, someone elects to follow him.

The algorithm trains us to see this and get angry. When he shows up in our feed, he seems like a normal person who disagrees with us. But he’s not normal. Someone like that is literally and sadly more in the mentally ill camp, even as the algorithm presented him to us like any other normal person, saying we suck.

Imagine if we had more programmable filters and algorithms. Like, mute people with over a thousand posts but with less than one follower per five hundred posts. That filters him out, similarly to how we would visually filter out and thus physically avoid a man holding his own shit in his hand in public on a street, who needs help but not public attention and proximity.

The centralized algorithms we have normalized, are not real life.

We give people virtual access that we would not do publicly, partially because we can program our real-life algorithms with various behavior rules that we can’t do on most virtual platforms.
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Ben Ewing · 87w
Nah mad respect https://m.primal.net/Jkre.jpg
Chako Chino · 87w
I am forever grateful that you give so much of your time to help others Lyn. Is there an algorithm for people like you or do we just trust our hearts and minds to attract love into our lives?
zebra · 87w
> "the algorithm presented him to us like any other" what do you mean by that? maybe algorithm just did nothing
Bitcoin Sailor · 87w
Jack wanted to implement Algorithm marketplace and never achieved that goal. Musk briefly mentioned this idea too during some spaces with Mario but seems his focus is not in this either.
Jon · 87w
Very interesting observation. Custom filters should be no big deal to implement anywhere, be it Twitter or nostr. In the case of Twitter I guess there's no incentive. Similar to how governments needs crises to thrive.
Christian · 87w
So this is a legit question. When do you leave twitter and go nostr only? I had 500 followers over there and it had nothing to do with my livelihood, so it wasn’t hard for me. I get that going nostr only comes at a higher cost for you.
vectr · 87w
What mind thinks they rise up by tearing others down? Never understood this.
Purple Horse · 87w
“Weird”
o.l.e. · 87w
I think if you see every user on Twitter, for example, not as a person, but as one of countless data points and then analyze the "movements" of the data points as a swarm... ...only then do the desired analyses emerge. I would be very curious to see if these "data points" recognize this and change...
Josua Schmid · 87w
Oh, wow! I like this analogy. Never thought about it like that. But are you sure he’s not a bot? We don’t have the bot problem in the real world.
calle · 87w
Thank you, I needed this.
JohnnyG · 87w
You just laid out requirements for a dev - thanks Lyn.
Bitcoin Wizard 🧙🏻‍♂️ · 87w
could be a bot
Sammytwofingers · 87w
love this lyn!
Ben Weeks ⚡ · 87w
Maybe we should put our nutsacks on the line. Too many down votes and you loose ya nuts! :-) Web of trust settings could push this stuff to the bottom / out of view.
keeth · 87w
This is so interesting. I take the opposite approach and block almost everyone (which must be mostly bots) with the goal of quality over quantity. This is obviously easier for me since it means vetting maybe 10 follows a week. My follower count remains low, but I’m not trying to promote anything....
mandalorianhodl · 87w
economy of the eyeballz...I need to cut my x activity, too.
Legion XXI · 87w
They know this well and do it on purpose, people who get emotionally trigger tend to come back. Same with news!
zebra · 87w
but still, I thought we are blaming social media for algorithms and not lack of them
Tdcracy · 87w
Excellent point of view
chrisoco · 87w
you ARE going to get me to dump Twitter, aren’t you?
SovereignSailor · 87w
This is so on point! Lyn your ways with words is really helping to awaken people thank you 🙏
shadow06 · 87w
Check his sign up date. Could be an AI lol
dankswoops · 87w
Zaps remove the incentive to create rage bait for view and like but instead promote to be ourselves and act with diplomacy. I love nostr so much.
APC · 87w
If I could have any algorithm, it would be to show me posts sorted by post engagement / avg. engagement for that user. example: If Elon Musk posts something and gets 1 million likes, but usually gets 10 million likes, I don't want to see that post. In contrast, if some random person I follow pos...
Prince Aleph · 87w
This is correct, although the problem is fairly easily solved by just using the block feature for now. I used to be against that, and for freedom of interaction, but as with anything jerks abused it and made that model less appealing. Blocking seals off access to bad actors and my threshold for un...
Brian · 87w
good point. I'd also like to be able to scroll through a feed of shit holding humans from time to time. like digital "people watching" in vegas
The Notorious BTC · 87w
Let’s make NOSTR the positive place. I love that concept.
Brunswick · 87w
He is not real
apollosnake69 · 87w
The users followers were also probably a bot
Eric FJ 🪬⚡️ · 87w
At what point would you consider leaving X and going nostr only?
Alezkar · 87w
that algorithm idea is pretty good
Mr⚡2MB 🐇🏴‍☠️ · 84w
He's probably vaccinated