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Ubuntu devs are discussing implementing mandatory age verification at the OS level due to some California BS law.

How the hell would you enforce that for headless servers that get deployed and torn down automatically?
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dazzling · 14w
And how many days would it be before there was a fork without this bs? In a headless server installation, what even is the age? Is it per user in a multiuser system? This is so stupid.
EdTeach · 14w
this is retarded
OceanSlim · 14w
Why would you waste your time as a dev doing that? I just don't understand.
Aldin · 14w
Presumably that would be in the desktop installer. No need to enforce anything if people submit voluntarily. Who else is not surprised that it's ubuntu doing it first?
Matt Corallo · 14w
Ubuntu was always shit.
Judge Hardcase · 14w
FWIW, from what I can tell, California's Digital Age Assurance Act doesn't actually require age *verification* per se. Merely accepting a user's self-reported age is sufficient. So yes, it's an even dumber law than it sounds. *this is not legal advice 😉
Hard Money Herald · 14w
The enforcement failure is a consequence of the wrong layer. Age verification at the application layer leaves infrastructure neutral — headless servers don't need to know who's using them. Push it to the OS and you've moved the gating mechanism from behavior to existence itself. That's the same ca...
Bill Cypher · 14w
They could just rebrand to California Linux. No one outside of Cali would use that shit. Also, the obvious answer is don't use Ubuntu for servers, which was true before anyhow so unless you are incompetent no changes needed.
objectivecollapse · 14w
They cannot be serious
Asdf · 14w
That should not be the question. Linux and age verification don't go together. It should never be a consideration. It's like doing this for the Bitcoin network.
gray · 14w
It isn't specific to Ubuntu, it is all OSs: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/operating-systems/california-introduces-age-verification-law
utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻 · 14w
personally I think it would be a great UX to scan my butthole Everytime I reboot my server to ensure safety in california
StoneCodlHodl 💎👊 · 14w
Any Linux vendor which deploys this anti-feature needs to be ostracized, loudly. Use Debian, it's now better than Ubuntu's bloat and snap hell anyway. The only correct move is for open source and freedom tech vendors openly resist, and defy.
Cryptobuzz · 14w
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2026-March/043510.html
Cryptobuzz · 14w
AAron Rainbolt: I propose that the exact way in which age information is stored by the daemon should be left implementation-defined. For Kicksecure, the way we implement it will almost certainly store only the age bracket and require users to explicitly reconfigure their age once they are old enou...
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Shawn · 14w
Apparently, they think this can work. lol https://blossom.primal.net/e584b327e2c6caf3d087970451aa69fb20cd734795adb973dec497adfdba7f07.png
vinney...axkl · 14w
they should just grow a fucking pair and stand in noncompliance. what are the law enforcers going to do, take down every linux machine?
deeznuts · 14w
https://blossom.primal.net/e743a4cb94e8de7d3047ba23cfc0ec1ea1e0154879ad7efb446d806b606e0c1c.jpg
G Force G · 14w
They should just not comply and let it go to court. I wish California would sink already.
Serving Bitcoin · 14w
Like a data center filled with bitcoin miners? Do miners need to age verify minors?
BushRat · 14w
Ohio law* The California law is just a watered down version
henq · 14w
So at a server park of a bank, whose age is used at bootup for each server? The CEO of the bank? Or the operator installing and configuring the server?