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Some people think Nostr cannot work with things like a "universal consistent like count" and other basic social media malignant tumors.

Even if we ignore the bad psychological and societal effects of such practices and assume they are good, and even if we assume that Nostr is all running in a single server that has all the events (a Bluesky-like unavoidable requirement for such universal consistency) these people are still completely oblivious to the fact that anyone can create a bazillion keypairs and spam like counts.

So when they ask for a "universal consistent like count" what these people are really asking for is for a centralized KYC barrier at the doors of Nostr that ensures only a single keypair can be created by each human.
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Thoreau · 104w
It's not hard to only count likes/zaps/comments from users in a web of trust (ie only count likes within 2 degrees on my follows) Missing out on fire notes because we can only order by date is ngmi
ew0k · 104w
A “like count” as in the little heart or thumbs up? Who gives a shit lmaaaao
Mateo de la Rioja · 104w
That might make sense for accounts like yours that have thousands of followers, but for those with only a few dozen followers, every interaction (including likes) counts and provides an incentive to continue engaging.
brito · 104w
People will learn to ignore the mass weaponized "likes". In the end, accounts with real followers will still be more interesting to real people around here.
daniele · 104w
As soon as someone starts playing with random keys to spam likes, they will be insignificant, so each client will remove them or add some WoT algo to filter them out and let a vaguely useful signal emerge. Human beings will have to get used to less easy dopamine if they want to live in a truly free ...
johnny · 104w
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talvasconcelos · 104w
zaps are the universal like count!
fysx · 104w
I’d like to see more likes on this 🤙
Moss · 104w
I disagree. Allowing users to see the data they want to see is something that every client should satisfy. This is not a particularly difficult requirement, it just meets the experience needs of ordinary users. Displaying data does not need to be consistent. But it does not mean that displaying data...
rafael_xmr · 104w
Not having privacy also dictates how you act. If everyone is KYCd, people wouldn't like, zap or interact with content they don't want to attribute to their gov identities. fake accounts are good, maybe exploitable, but I think the problem in "universal consistent like count" is the "universal" part,...
Lo · 104w
that got dark real fast
சாரு-秋陽 · 104w
I don't believe people really care about consistent total count of reactions or like ( when even replies are not consistently brought up - thank you NIP-10 😅). That's why reaction polls are still not a thing 🤷‍♀️ Zaps may be a different thing -- can't comment on that.
Dissident Sound · 104w
fuck the haters - i love NOSTR. i don't care about numbers - everybody knows i am the best.
DefiantDandelion · 104w
Those that think this way also don’t know that Twitter and any other company also can’t even be sure of the follower count. Even in a centralized service. Developers introduce hacks and bugs to get things done, intentional and unintentional. How many times have we heard complaints from people sa...
nostrich · 104w
Define the problems around that
Ingwie Phoenix (aka. birb) · 104w
To quote Louis: Unfortunate and informative. Exactly why "stats" on Nostr do not really matter. They are nice, but more "there" than "useful".
nout · 104w
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