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Before the 1990s most computing was done on mainframes that were expensive and difficult to access, because that was simply the state of hardware.

Then we had a couple decades of software running on personal computing hardware because networking hardware sucked.

Now with broadband we're back to running software on servers because cloud computing has made it cost efficient, and software companies can have far greater control over the user experience.

The looming question in my mind: can we swing the pendulum back in the other direction by focusing on development of p2p apps and infrastructure?

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PolymathicPedagogue · 99w

The Session folks have penned the name 'Decentralized Physical Infrastructure Network', but perhaps we could work on the title. Regardless, having Bitcoin nodes and other services, such as invidious, Cryptpad, and many others (like what nostr:npub1tr4dstaptd2sp98h7hlysp8qle6mw7wmauhfkgz3rmxdd8ndpr...

Mountain Yoda · 99w

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I think one problem is just usability, decentralized solutions tend to either suck or need tons of maintenance, possibly both. We need to bring the UX and ease of use closer to entrenched centralized solutions. Also i dont necessarily think people need to run their own stuff in a homelab at home....

bootlace · 99w

Let's create a hello world and go from there.

I wonder if the hardware is the driving force here. Switch back to cloud computing could have also happened because of the success of the ad based profit model, and the 'free' services that came with that.

OceanSlim · 99w

Need to focus on making user set up as one click as possible. Cloud is over engineered and overpriced for 90% of applications. People only use it because "it's easy"

Hello World · 99w

A tangent to what you are talking about… All these kids attending public schools are trapped in the Google ecosystem from the moment they start kindergarten. I don’t think administrators, school boards, and parents understand the implications. I wonder if P2P can succeed at scale without some k...

TallBrian · 99w

We should own our data and possession is 9/10 of the law. I’m in favor of this.

nostrich · 99w

Efficiency of computing and decentralization are tradeoffs. Decentralisation is not efficient , never will be, it is secure and resilient to resist central control. This is why bitcoin will never have the throughput of centralised computing, all the nodes globally, ideally, must see and verify each ...

Yes, nostr:npub126ntw5mnermmj0znhjhgdk8lh2af72sm8qfzq48umdlnhaj9kuns3le9ll is doing amazing things with their private servers allowing anybody, no matter if you don't have a technical background (like myself) to greatly reduce your dependancy on BigTech

I believe https://holepunch.to/ fixes this. https://keet.io/ is the first app on it. A rapidly improving demo. We're early. In 5 years I see most client/server and SaaS apps running on holepunch.

That “couple decades of software running on personal computing hardware” was the time when whole families had only one computer in their household. Maybe two if you’re lucky. And certainly no smartphone. Now, every person has their own laptop, phone, probably tablet, and maybe watch. And they...

Johnathan Corgan · 99w

I just miss running applications on my computer instead of running a browser that runs a framework that runs the front end of an application that perceptibly lags because it has to consult a backend run elsewhere by a company that requires an account and sells your data.

calvadev⚡️ · 99w

Mesh networks are a nice step in the right direction. There is definitely still a lot of work to do on making it as easy as possible for anyone to self-host, though.

You're the ETHhead. You tell me.

I hope so but the challenge imo is that average people don’t care about privacy censorship or unfair business practices until it personally affects them. I’m not saying they can’t be persuaded but it’s like telling someone that likes cheap cigarettes they’re bad for you

btcschellingpt · 99w

Mainframes remain a backbone for financial tx processing today (>85%) because they’re cost effective for very high base load For loads where there’s significant variance, “cloud” has gained significant foothold because it can be (not is) more cost effective The important difference is that...

Sandāgoriate サンダーゴリアテ · 99w

We need create or make more ways to communicate data via other infra that not internet only. Mash, Satellite, Radio, "Internet Nodes" (using the combination of all the 3 first ones maybe with a low cost tech that can became viral and easy to buy everywhere). We need more Linux/decentralized OS's. ...

Everything is a choice. Which means self discipline and collective action = change.