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Travis West · 108w
It doesn't make sense. The State doing state things.
Sjors Provoost (possibly compromised) · 108w
Keep reading the DoJ document, it explains why. We need to level up here.
maverick · 108w
Because the courts decide the meaning of statues, even if the statute seems obvious to us.
Brian · 108w
One difference is that the samurai guys were getting paid and there's likely many transactions they can find were from some ill gotten bitcoin paying fees directly to them. Could be seen as a business that's getting fees for facilitating money transferring.
Duck Nebuchadnezzar · 108w
What USB cables do you recommend. Need one that's registered as a money transmitter. Should also be able to charge my phone.
Docta Reed · 108w
Agreed, with their definition, our brains are money transmitters.
Weird Mike Jerkovic · 108w
They shouldn't have been calling wallets wallets. Maybe key manager. Nobody would have cared. And there's nothing in the wallet except for keys.
Kris · 108w
Or fiber optic cables and routers and kubernetes and AWS and pretty much all software and infrastructure connected to the internet. Ridiculous.
Reed · 108w
How is me paying for groceries in cash not money transmitting? It's just literally applying the English language definitions of transmit and money.
tegila.js · 108w
Layers matter
Joey · 108w
Then an ordinary wallet is also transferring money e.g.: from my home to the grocery store
nostrich · 108w
It doesn't mention self-custody wallets. But by facilitating coinjoins, they were facilitating the transfer of money between the coinjoin participants. Node operators routing lighting payments are also money transmitting businesses.
@IsabelSydow Queen of Shrimps (but u can call me Dan.) · 108w
and browsers.... I mean... browser extensions... This is some scary shit ...
Frontier Father 🧔⚡ · 108w
The more rules the State makes, the less effect the body of rules has. This is end game for them.
SimplifiedPrivacy.com · 108w
solid point
Gildong.Hong · 108w
ISPs ARE money transimitters🤣
Seth · 108w
Data transmitters are money transmitters?
Deleted Account · 108w
The absolutely insane Pandora’s box this “interpretation” would open makes me all the more confident that the lawyers who are Bitcoin-facing will annihilate any attempts to pass this through in court. 🙏
Mysth · 108w
Why do you even try to make sense of laws that are permanently bent, violated, or outright ignored by the people supposed to be upholding them ?
BitcoinEkasi · 108w
the logical conclusion here is that money that can be self-custodied is illegal.
Sovereign Origin 🥕 · 108w
ISPs also fully surveil your data and backdoor the govt 🫠
Hash Guru · 108w
Also custodial wallets
captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 · 108w
value transmission = money transmission what legal difference Ask Attorney General please
captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 · 108w
anything of value (cowdung, dogshit , satoshishit) can be converted to money or viceversa in barter system - barter can happen between virtual <-> physical or virtual<-> virtual what if offical state money is NOT involved at all? law can interpreted just for benefit of state apparatus and to manife...
Brunswick · 108w
Craigslist is facilitating money transmission
Uxellodunum · 108w
But wallets don't transmit any money. They allow for the modification of a field on the ledger to alter the private key that has access to the Bitcoin.
uncleJim21 · 108w
If I trick a politician into saying a seed phrase during a game of charades he is an illegal money transmitter THINK DIFRNET
The real prophet Muhhammed who invented islam aka False Idol #1 · 108w
The coin-join protocol that Samourai used was custodial meaning they moved other peoples money making them a transmitter. WHOOPS Almost as if all custodial software is a scam