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I don’t think I’ve ever done anything with python and pip that didn’t result in an entire cascade of errors, failed installs, can’t use newest version, can’t write to disk, and a myriad other absurd errors.

Then I go online and people are using these tools like you just double click something and it goes.

What internet do you guys live in where any of this shit actually works?

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Don't Believe The Vibe 🌱🍋🍊 · 19w

It barely just works. But once it works it kinda works most of the time.

DarthCoin ₿⚡️ · 19w

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It's still a pain, but I've found it less painful with mise. https://mise.jdx.dev/

Gotta make a python virtual environment and activate it, at least thats what works for me when installing and using libraries with pip, ymmv

nostrich · 19w

We use Conda, venv, or virtualenv from day one, and never not use it.

python sucks for dependency management. use “uv”, it’s the best option these days.

BottleTeams · 19w

YouTube how to install Python. Anaconda and pip. It's by far the easiest most approachable language. Start with pandas and numpy and you can do 90% of mostly anything. Anything you want to do there are examples online / stackoverflow.

BottleTeams · 19w

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YYXdXT2l-Gg&list=PL-osiE80TeTt2d9bfVyTiXJA-UTHn6WwU&index=2&pp=iAQB That is your entire playbook

UV is the most pleasant option

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Aidan De Angelis · 19w

+1 for the mise and uv love. Specifically - uv for simple python packages - mise + uv if you plan on having a polyglot package, e.g python + NodeJS - nix flakes if you want to go full retard and guarantee reproducibility across machines

Currency of Distrust · 19w

I feel the exact same way about pip. It never works for me and drives me completely insane. I started using Go as my main language and it’s so much better

BITKARROT · 19w

call me some time and i will be happy to share some tips :D

Tommy Volk · 19w

I’m with you. I quit a past job over having to try wrangle a ridiculously convoluted Python codebase and running into exactly the issues you’re describing. I don’t know how or why anyone ships any production software with Python. Sure, it works for quick and dirty one-off scripts, but anything...

I feel you G. I have trouble just trying to load software

Mad Philosopher · 19w

If I’m searching for some software to solve a need I have and I land somewhere good, if it’s written in Python, I swiftly close the tab. Just give me a single executable like golang produces, thank you very much. And stop breaking the language every few years. And I say this as a Python programm...

nostrich · 19w

You should try meshtastic, then you'll know where on the difficulty scale your experience belongs.