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If you're a Bitcoiner then you might be lucky enough to receive two whole shitcoin airdrops this year. Here is what you need to know, including a few warnings and how you can stay safe.

This year, two of the most eccentric Bitcoiners who couldn't succeessfully change Bitcoin even if they sold their mother, will finally fork off and find out how it feels to be a shitcoiner with your own chain:
- Paul Sports, the BIP300 guy who hates Lightning more than I hate shitcoins, and
- Luke Dashjr, the BIP110 guy who eats cats and can't stop thinking about CSAM.

Strange characters, great to see them go their own way.

What does that mean for you? If you have say 1 BTC to your name, you will now also have 1 Paul-BTC and 1 Luke-BTC. Even if your own Bitcoin is stored on a hardware wallet, you will now also have two shitcoins that are also secured with the same keys as your real Bitcoin.

Do I have to do anything? No. This all happens automatically. You don't need to do anything, you wouldn't even notice anything has happened. After all, what do you care whether some dude has forked Bitcoin and decided to become a shitcoiner. You can chill.

What if I want to dump it? Obviously both of these shitcoins will be worthless and will go to zero so you might be tempted to sell them. Many of us never played with shitcoins so this is a real temptation. In the most likely case, there won't even be an exchange where you can sell these coins because both are going to be pretty small and pathetic, unlike previous attacks on Bitcoin that tried to fork (Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Gold, ...).

If you decide to move these shitcoins to an exchange (and assuming there will be wallets that help you do so), a few things are important to keep in mind:

- There will be wallets that help you move your forked shitcoins. These wallets might ask you for your hardware wallet's seed phrase and pretend to be nice but will actually steal all your BTC. NEVER AND IN NO CIRCUMSTANCE ENTER YOUR HARDWARE WALLET'S SEED PHRASE INTO A COMPUTER. Wait for reputable wallets to appear that have been audited and thread extremely carefully. Even if you're a "pro Bitcoiner" you can lose your life savings if you mess this up. I repeat: If you enter your seed phrase into a malicious wallet, you could lose all of your REAL Bitcoins, not only that fake shit.

- If you successfully moved your shitcoins off your wallet, you might be tempted to sell them on an exchange, assuming there will be one. Note that WHICHEVER SHITCOIN UTXO YOU DOXX (i.e. connect with your identity), ALSO DOXXES YOUR REAL BITCOIN. If you deposit your Luke-shitcoin to an exchange, that exchange WILL ALLSO SEE YOUR REAL BITCOIN on the real blockchain. If you send all your shitcoins to a random guy on the internet, that random guy will also see your entire real bitcoin stack. This is because the fork mirrors Bitcoin's history.

So the summary is:
- wallets will be released that appear to help you to move your shitcoins but they actually want to steal your Bitcoin. Dangerous.
- if you move your shitcoins and connect them to your identity, then you also doxx your real bitcoins. Dangerous.
- If you don't do anything, you're safe. Basically "play stupid games, win stupid prizes".

Stay safe. Reject shitcoins.

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murmur · 3d
Worth hearing, not just scrolling past — I'll turn this into audio for the thread once 589 sats land here. One zap or many.
SimOne · 3d
So basically do nothing?
Cykros · 3d
It may make sense, if you intend to make use of these, to just make a back up of your Bitcoin datadir now, and when the forks happen, spin up a node on their chain, so that you can use a native wallet. BUT YOU'RE NOT DONE YET -- you need to also be sure to take replay protection into consideration. ...
nostrich · 3d
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Michael Friedl · 3d
I ended up unfollowing Luke and Paul before I ever knew of this BIP. But I genuinely hope everyone's egos recover from this. My perception is the stakes are too low for Bitcoiners to cut all ties and never speak to each other again over this.
Jamie · 3d
Sooooo, ignore them and move on with my life??? Ok, will do!
FEW_BTC · 3d
Helpful overview. TY
Sun of the Moon (BIP110) · 3d
And remember two things folks, Luke is an original OG that saved Bitcoin twice before from failing, and all of these issues described by Calle are caused by Core developer corruption. And thank you Calle for popping your headup as an officical Coretard. Now I can block and mute you😁
nostrich · 3d
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nostrich · 3d
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Libertas Primordium · 3d
It's simpler than that if you know what you're doing. Connect sparrow wallet to a knots node configured and synced with bip-110 rules. Your keys never leave your hardware wallet. What kind of bitcoiner are you if you don't know how to do that?
Sync · 3d
For once it’s nice to front run the future chaos 🔥 with a just sit back and chill solution, nice write up 🫶
nostrich · 3d
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nostrich · 3d
I think you meant to say “stay safe and reject Cashu”. “Are there any risks when using Cashu and associated wallets and tools? Yes. In fact, there are many risks. Make sure to understand them before putting any sats into any Cashu mint/wallet.” https://docs.cashu.space/faq
5D Sasquatch · 3d
Basically if you're into Peter Todd, censoring discussions, removing node configurability, massive utxo sets, Citrea and nepotism...do nothing and lose all credibility with the plebs. https://blossom.primal.net/3d45eaa97fe973477348c846f67897f6e4f90155913f0057a4a1e54324a35a8a.jpg
hawaiisatoshi · 3d
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guy · 3d
sadly, things that should go to zero, don't always... the world is too retarded. https://cdn.nostrcheck.me/641b998c8d526457808bec41d576b3c278f8b084e52810f310f61dc67baedf31.png
Bitter21 · 3d
I have never heard from Paul Sports.
SwapMarket · 3d
what's the timeline on these two? it was good fun dumping bch/bsv/gold forks, hope to repeat
GHOST · 3d
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murmur · 3d
Murmured. 4m 2s of audio, ready for everyone. https://npub1s4q2ulh45vfat58xpnd9py3g3hys37ueyx7nzw29pfzlryq69wdqegqmtn.blossom.band/f5b9b538606f78e520437255d5e8677e9c43f2bef245ed805d58503b6b7d7758.mp3 Funded by nostr:npub1fguyv0p2whngcfzpdemjpganhmamp6ngwt26q35jcw0p368jmjkqy27896
BendtheKneetoBip110 · 3d
This clown calle owes me money from his iou scam called ecash
keystroke · 3d
"not only that fake shit." - read in nostr:nprofile1qyxhwumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmvqyv8wumn8ghj7urjv4kkjatd9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wsqzqpxfzhdwlm3cx9l6wdzyft8w8y9gy607tqgtyfq7tekaxs7lhmxf5dcd8v s Voice 😅 Thanks for the PSA!
dustygrooves · 3d
I thought bip110 was a soft fork
Kayne · 3d
Seeing people here publically defend turning the blockchain into a csam hosting service is insane.
Majestic Entity · 3d
" Luke Dashjr, the BIP110 guy who eats cats and can't stop thinking about CSAM. " hahaha🤣 nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj76rfwd6zumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qqs9pk20ctv9srrg9vr354p03v0rrgsqkpggh2u45va77zz4mu5p6ccc9wh3a how can I dispose of my Luke-coins for more bitcoins if there is...
vincent · 3d
"succeessfully".
exactly21 · 3d
Thank you! https://blossom.primal.net/b9692128d7e74b9f06e2b29c34577cd137e7a7e2a7f237d538986405d7a28420.gif
Roboto Saith · 2d
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Deleted Account · 2d
Oh Calle keep building your shitcoin nuts and maybe shut the fuck up until it’s over. It’d be funny if you talked all this shit with your scammy cashews and ended up losing. I swear I’m a BIP110 fan just because of people like you running their mouth. And lightning fucking sucks by the way. O...