Damus
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I’m thinking about what @jack mallers has recently spoken about in regards to the hodler’s dilemma.

This is the choice to either spend your coins to finance living, or not spend your coins and live “less” than you otherwise could. Which is why he released @strike Lending (which I’m super excited about)

Interest rates on this lending product appear to be between 9-13%, which seems high compared to traditional lending, but if you’re a hodler, you’re not a traditional investor, so is it expensive for you?

If Bitcoin’s CAGR is between 50-60%, what’s 13% in interest?

Let’s say Bitcoin’s CAGR works its way down to 25-30%. By then, interest rates should settle between 6-9%, but let’s say 9% to stay conservative.

Still a better option than selling, creating a taxable event, and missing out on future appreciation of your Bitcoin. I think an important thing to understand is that this product is for productive individuals. If you work or have a business and can service the debt payments while living below or within your means, this is an amazing product for you.

My husband and I speak about this almost every night. We’ve completed a full tour of duty in Bitcoin (4-year cycle). In the beginning, we thought we would be offloading some to finance a better quality life once we reached this point.

But now we understand that the more we hold off on certain spending and sacrifice to live as minimally as possible now, each year that goes by, we’ll have that much more financial freedom moving forward.

Now with lending, as long as we continue to live profitably, our savings will keep growing exponentially because we won’t need to cut into 5-8% of our stack each year to cover living expenses like we thought we would.

My favorite part about this lending product from Strike, and others who will adopt this framework, is no credit check. That’s a big double bird from us to the system that tried to control us with their BS communist social credit score.

No, we will not play by your nonsensical rules. Proof of work. Bitcoin is a meritocracy. You get opportunities based on your stack and nothing else. And you grow your stack by providing value to society.

Proof of work. So excited for this bright orange future that is really starting to pick up steam.
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Eporediese · 50w
Just be careful about taking on leverage towards the end of a bull market ⚠️
Jimmy · 50w
Defaulting on your debt will not be a taxable event? And then you have extra interest to pay plus risk loosing two times or more in btc than what you would spend it when you needed it.
Base Layer Capital · 50w
Yep. Been running simulations around this. Wife and I started Base Layer Capital LLC to execute it Moved all btc to BLC. It's dead simple. If you can do loans with no monthly payments and rollovers..like Strike provides. Then the math is simple. Will bitcoin CAGR be higher than your loan AP...
DRE · 50w
Good to have more options, but people are better off taking a second mortgage or using income products like MSTY if they are borrowing to upgrade their lives, which relies on Bitcoin appreciation in the short term given the duration of the loan. Not to mention the higher interest rate and stress fro...
Who, What, When, Where, How, and Why? · 50w
So you pay taxes on your bitcoin and you are comfortable with counterparty risk? Why did you get into bitcoin?
GJM · 50w
Bitcoin does not have a compound annual growth rate CAGR. It has an annual rate of return ARR. At it’s core CAGR is a way to describe in one number what happens when you reinvest an interest payment or dividend back into the original principle over many years at different interest rates. Bitcoin d...
HoylesPattern · 50w
One comment, four points. Strike offering sounds promising. 1. What happens to the your collateralised BTC if Strike goes bust - you have the fiat but not the BTC? 2. What happens if the Government has a change of mind and forces Strike to freeze your BTC collateral? 3. Do you pay your loan ...
Chris · 50w
Yes, you still play by nonsensical rules! You give your Bitcoin away and do KYC, all just to get the fiat... which you so much hate.
nostrich · 50w
You do you. I just thought it was kinda funny Jack talking in the beginning of the presentation about how we are in a debt based financial system and his product offers you to go into debt...
₿oniz23⚡️🏴‍☠️🇮🇹 · 50w
I'm not convinced by this method. I am sorry
Ghee Debord · 50w
Great as long as you don’t get liquidated and the lender doesn’t blow up and take your coins.
Will · 50w
The responses to this product are wild, especially from Nostriches! I can't tell if these are Russian bots, or people just too engrained in the fiat middle class mindset to evaluate BTC lending properly, from first principles. My only complaint about it is that I can't use it in California yet....
alp · 49w
Bad, bad advice. There's never any good in interest. Allah has forbidden interest but allowed trade. First, you stack Sats for a year or two, then you start spending a certain percentage of it each year. You’ll still have enough left over. “Enough” is the key word here, not the mathematical o...