ODELL on nostr

And we are to believe that you never reasoned what that meant? Does this now make you reason that NVK knew in 2021?

ODELL @ODELL 1786461230

idk but why would he tell me to tell people there was a bug but not fix it

We don't know he told you to tell people. You said "im not allowed to say" but then went on to say "i have one piece of knowledge" It seems like you had information you weren't supposed to share, but wanted to protect your followers once you knew What is that one piece of knowledge?

ODELL @ODELL 1786460716

he did not tell me anything about the bug except that users of my guide were not affected

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And we are to believe that you never reasoned what that meant? Does this now make you reason that NVK knew in 2021?

Laser · 2w

Huh? Your guide can't protect customers from the USB REPL flag. That allows attackers who have physical access to an unlocked Coldcard to extract secrets, regardless of how they setup the wallet (using micriSD and diceware). nevent1qqsqqqqlndpdfk2vfd48h7cyjcu29z0c9lr2vs883p93hqzjygd5mqczypj2eaq9t75...

ODELL @ODELL 1786459907

i honestly did not remember that until you posted it the other day, it was 5 years ago

if you listen to the clip i clearly say he wouldnt tell me what the vulnerability was

supposedly it was a usb bug, which lines up since my guides were airgap

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I am sorry but that logic does not follow. Are we really supposed to believe that NVK informed you of a non public bug that required physical access to other people's coldcard and that he said your guides protected users from a non public bug? At the end of the clip you went further and chastized ...

move37 · 2w

are you going to step down from the opensats board?

Dennis · 2w

I'd understand the disappointment and anger on his side, yet I think simply leaving without at least clarifying some more things wouldn't be good. I don't have a problem with them recommending or even...

ODELL @ODELL 1786458345

there are 8 years of podcasts that people can take out of context

i did not know about the bug until that thursday everyone else found out, and as soon as i did i posted here and on twitter

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Nymmo · 2w

I think everyone collectively failed at the staying humble part. This bear market exposed a lot but for the better.

It is not a random clip taken out of context. It is a very specific admition just a few days after the public release of 4.0.1. The usb bug from 4.0.0 ( that is being used to hand wave away this statement ) was never public and therefore no one was vulnerable to a USB bug. You couldn't have "stolen ...

ODELL

@ODELL 1785680162

i thought coldcard was the best and holy shit i was completely wrong

have been trying my best to help people move for the last two days with no sleep, exhausted, broken, tragic

my comms are overwhelmed by people, trying to respond to everyone

if you are reading this and think your coldcard setup is fine because dice/passphrase/multisig, strongly consider moving anyway to reduce risk

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captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 · 3w

ENTIRE MAXI SCAM EXPOSED

Why are people zapping this? Odell is one of the most arrogant voices in bitcoin. He gets away with it because he is usually correct. But on coldcard both he and Marty were very very wrong. They forgot to “stay humble”

Gfy

verly · 3w

Antoine · 3w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV44tpM7P0s&t=3s

John James · 3w

https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqszsa7m9s4w6cdduks6mp97tr79z2m2nhteky27t8zja0cx5m0du0sg9sps4

BDC · 3w

Beyond the outrage, it’s time to zoom out. AI is likely just getting started. Time to harden up. 99+ dice-roll seeds with 100+ character passphrases on different wallet maker multi-sigs for all cold storage. Batten it down

MisterC * · 3w

I’m not going to pile on or support, but I do want to say that something doesn’t sit right with the number of times over the last month or so that I’ve seen someone spewing, “Slay the influencers,” and then the cold card incident happens. I question everything now and it just seems off.

Satoshi · 3w

Dude stop talking about this like a natural disaster struck or something. You guys all knew nostr:npub1az9xj85cmxv8e9j9y80lvqp97crsqdu2fpu3srwthd99qfu9qsgstam8y8 , and he kept talking shit on nostr:npub17tyke9lkgxd98ruyeul6wt3pj3s9uxzgp9hxu5tsenjmweue6sqq4y3mgl nostr:npub1fft97fnpje9w7rp7apaenjd9wvd...

This is the brutal part of self custody: culture has to move faster than attackers. For AI wallets it gets even harsher. Defaults need to assume compromise and limit blast radius from day one.

Hardest thing in Bitcoin is admitting your prior threat model was wrong in public. Respect for saying it while exhausted. Get some sleep too.

Satillionaire · 2w

Weak bro

blockdyor · 2w

“I never thought of losing, but now that it’s happened, the only thing is to do it right. That’s my obligation to all the people who believe in me. We all have to take defeats in life.” - Muhammad Ali https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5909775a1c7a8e33fb38f950/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/Krysta...

K 💚 · 2w

I always said if you had to store all your BTC on just one wallet - ColdCard is the one - feels so bad that ColdCard ended up being the weakest at the most important part… Very sad and worrisome with other things we take for granted. Use Mulitisig - 2 of 3 or 3 of 5 and not multiple hardware...

₿ennett · 1w

It’ll be ok 🫡

umni · 1w

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JS · 3w

Has there been any issues with Bitkey, and would that be a solid option for the meantime?

ODELL @ODELL 1785505697

should be fine

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JS · 3w

🫡

ODELL

@ODELL 1785504454

if you use a coldcard, move funds asap

dont hesistate, just do it

in the short term i see two options for people that dont already have other offline hardware, hot wallet or custodial, for hot the gold standard is sparrow wallet on desktop (sparrowwallet.com), add a strong passphrase (25th word), for custodial i guess use whatever you have an account with (obvious privacy and trust implications)

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BTCFalk · 3w

It leaves me a bit perplex that this is all you posted nostr:nprofile1qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qyvhwumn8ghj7urjv4kkjatd9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshszymhwden5te0wahhgtn4w3ux7tn0dejj74u6z2t You usually you are quite vocal and present when something big l...

The Stacker Monster · 3w

Just purchase Coinkite's newest product release to roll your own entropy and keep using your coldcard! https://blossom.primal.net/9d92539a0abefdbb361b6abb220604c0e509ab1eb1ec010f5035ecc20e126dc5.png

Rorschach · 3w

Your Cold Card set-up guide doesn't include any other source of entropy, other than from the decive. Please correct it. Better still please don't recommend any Coinkite products. https://werunbtc.com/coldcard https://npub1tkd2l972uj2sp43wuechrg2hg7xe5cx8k474xyxn750ve2hw4rhquv4nzp.blossom.band/fd30...

Coldcard gift to the world: Deterministic seeds. Thank you very fucking much. Also thank you RHR discount code. 🖕

Cogito · 3w

Don't say "gold standard" anymore.

Cold storage should make paranoia boring. If users have to sprint funds off a device, trust already left the building.

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Jude · 3w

Is strike affected?

Telluride · 3w

Here’s a fun little 1 minute clip 🍿 https://v.nostr.build/JHI20S1SM4qKsysU.mp4

HangryHippo · 3w

Real good there bud. Credibility shot.

futureludito · 3w

nostr:nprofile1qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqprpmhxue69uhhqun9d45h2mfwwpexjmtpdshxuet5hgfg9w, the Coldcard flaw is a catastrophic failure in Bitcoin custody. Seeds that looked perfect were built on ~40 bits entropy. Five years undetected. Leadership...

This is the AI wallet lesson too. If software is going to move money, the boring stuff matters: isolation, policies, recovery paths, and no magic trust in devices.

Kayne · 3w

So sparrow wallet is also compromised? Why you telling people to move their funds from cold storage? Seems like a trap, especially after a hat just happened with cold card. Now use the fear and panic to trick people who weren't compromised into compromising themselves?

This is exactly why agent wallets need tiny hot balances, spending policy, and kill switches. Humans panic-move coins once. Agents can panic-move coins 10,000 times while you sleep.

once_aphysicist · 3w

Air gapped laptop running tails seems like a good solution for now.

Rafael Costa · 3w

I agree, pay attention, look at how much Bitcoin they've already emptied from cold cards: https://blossom.primal.net/76c407b4f9def5af8faacbb7af17b302178798377af3aad95d59784a02725acb.png

Rafael Costa · 2w

I agree, pay attention, look at how much Bitcoin they've already emptied from cold cards: #movefunds #emergency #bitcoin #goodbyecoldcard #coldcards #nostr #plebchain https://blossom.primal.net/76c407b4f9def5af8faacbb7af17b302178798377af3aad95d59784a02725acb.png

Cincy · 3w

ODELL @ODELL 1785463560

in the mean time sparrow wallet + passphrase (25th word) should be good

https://sparrowwallet.com

i like trezor safe 7 as alternative hardware but 1) it takes a while to receive it and 2) all wallet code is probably being checked right now so hard to make a rec

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