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melaviola profile picture
Yesterday the EU Parliament voted on Chat Control. 314 MEPs voted to reject it. 276 voted to keep it. A clear majority of those who voted said no, and it wasn’t enough. The 360-vote threshold did exactly what it was designed to do.

Whatever the outcome, don’t look away now. Chat Control 1.0 is NOT mandatory scanning. It’s the expired ePrivacy derogation, the legal basis for platforms that choose to scan private messages. Voluntary.

Bad? A lot. Rejected in March. Expired in April. Resurrected in July via urgent procedure, on the last day before summer recess, when blocking it took 361 votes and every absent MEP counted as a yes. They didn’t win the argument. They changed the rules.

Why? Because the Council needed it to buy time and leverage for the real fight: Chat Control 2.0 (CSAR).
CSAR detection orders would let authorities force every platform to scan your private communications. Still stuck in negotiations. Still not law. Still stoppable.
That’s exactly why this is not the moment to tune out. This is the moment they’re counting on you to tune out.

So please, stay loud. The real battle is still ahead.
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Imaginaero · 7w
The parliamentary numbers reveal a crucial distinction: the rejection hinged not on outright prohibition, but on preventing the ePrivacy regulation’s forced application to platform data handling.
Imaginaero · 7w
The parliamentary numbers reveal a surprisingly pragmatic rejection; the 360 threshold functioned as a remarkably effective brake on immediate regulatory overreach.
Bufcat · 7w
Yeah, but now we know they are cheaters. EU downgraded to Low-Trust jurisdiction. Fight fight fight, and do not tune out.
melaviola profile picture
Cypherpunks write code. But that’s half the job.

Code protects your privacy; it doesn’t repeal bad laws. The law that survives untouched keeps producing honeypots and mandates for everyone, technical or not. If the goal is a better society and not just individual protection, someone has to walk into a courtroom.

So @BULL BITCOIN did. Individuals have virtually no standing to sue an EU directive directly, so we challenged the French decree implementing DAC8 and asked the judge to refer the directive itself to the EU Court of Justice.

Complaining is free and changes nothing. Code and case numbers change things.
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melaviola profile picture
Why am I so fixated on Chat Control?
Because saying that “encryption remains in place” is one of the most dishonest statements I’ve ever heard.

Client-side scanning checks your content ON YOUR DEVICE, before encryption takes place. The padlock is intact. They’re simply searching your bag before you put anything inside it. E2EE ends up protecting the transmission, not the communication. Your own device becomes the informant.

And what about detection technology? The Commission’s own evaluation of voluntary scanning found false positive rates of up to 20% for AI-based image detection. One in five flagged conversations: it wasn’t CSAM. Now scale that to billions of messages.
Over 800 cybersecurity researchers have warned the European Parliament that the error rates are unacceptable and that targeted tools already exist. In tech policy, that level of scientific consensus against a proposal is almost unheard of.
Even the Council’s own Legal Service says that access to private communications without suspicion violates Article 7 of the Charter.

So what?
So they intend to approve it.

→ fightchatcontrol.eu
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nostrich · 7w
Just use a degoogled or Linux phone
mrFox · 7w
Here is a good resource I found. Both technical suggestions for users and broader context of mass surveillance with a nice timeline of laws that gradually led to it. https://exitchatcontrol.org
nostrich · 26w
Spieß voran!
xte · 26w
EU subjects, because there are few of us who are actually Citizens, are letting things slide just as they’ve let everything else slide until now... After all, while most people grasp the concept of ...
melaviola profile picture
Everything you’ve described is real — the herd mentality, the Overton window shifts, the deliberate erosion of cheap computing, the gap between where decentralized tools are and where they need to be.
And yet.
In this journey I’ve met people who make concrete choices every day: about the apps they use, the hardware they buy, the platforms they refuse to feed. Not because it’s easy or convenient, but because they understand what’s at stake. They’re not waiting for the revolution. They’re building habits, infrastructure, and culture, one decision at a time.
I don’t know what the future looks like. Nobody does.
But I know that giving up isn’t an option, not because of optimism, but because of what’s on the line.
We don’t stop to ask ourselves why we define private property. We just do, because it’s foundational, because without it, everything else collapses. Digital privacy is no different. There are no rights without it. No free thought, no free expression, no meaningful ownership of anything, including yourself.
The people who understand this are fewer than they should be. But they exist. And every day they choose accordingly.
That matters. Even when it doesn’t feel like it.
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xte · 26w
I agree, but... When the governing cohort is too small it's called dictatorship, when the middle class meaning those who are active in society, engaged, interested, are to few even in democracy at maximum we can call oligarchy. I think most have no hope, but if we could nurture those who can we can...
melaviola profile picture
Every surveillance system in history was built for a good reason. None of them stopped there.

Today, the EU begins its final negotiations on Chat Control 2.0, and the threat to your privacy isn’t over. Mandatory scanning of encrypted messages? Off the table, but the Council is still pushing for mandatory identity verification to use messaging apps, including end-to-end encrypted ones.

Privacy is not a tool for hiding wrongdoing.
It is a necessary condition for free thought, free expression, and free relationships.
The real question isn’t only whether to monitor private communications. It’s what kind of digital society Europe wants to build.

But Europe is its citizens. This question belongs to us. We can’t keep outsourcing centuries of hard-won civilization.

One “necessary exception” at a time.
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xte · 26w
EU subjects, because there are few of us who are actually Citizens, are letting things slide just as they’ve let everything else slide until now... After all, while most people grasp the concept of owning a physical good, like a fork or a car, they don't get it when it comes to digital assets, jus...
nostrich · 26w
If you don't already get a degoogled phone asap. Use xmpp and simplex for chat. Forget X, nostr only.
Shadow · 20w
Check out https://fightchatcontrol.eu/ ! It allows to communicate your disappointment about Chat Control 2.0 to EU parliamentarians. There's also https://stopchatcontrol.eu/ that links to a petition against the law proposal.
UNCLE ROCKSTAR · 44w
The pleasure is mine 💪
melaviola profile picture
#ChatControl is back on the agenda of EU governments. The Hungarian Presidency will gather 'guidance for further work' on the text on September 4th. Governments will discuss 'progress' on October 10th/11th, with endorsement expected on December 12th/13th.

This highlights why a protocol like #Nostr is crucial. It’s also a reason to appreciate and support the work of people like @JeffG.
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JeffG · 103w
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Leo Wandersleb · 103w
Will ChatControl be a requirement for apps or might it also come in the form of the OS implementing it? The latter could affect nostr users, too.
nik ⚡️🟠🟣 · 103w
If they go very hard… it could be that the only private and secure solution will be GrapheneOS + SimpleX…
AleZ · 103w
#[3]
RalfWausE · 103w
Keeping the government out of our digital lifes indeed is not a sprint but a marathon...