This was introduced early this year and it's already addresed to as "timeless"? Wow. But like everything else, time will tell.

Oh yes, I definetly know about pkarr. Awsome work. I din't notice this pubky app. Reading through the material, isn't this exactly what are you talking about?

I like it. But before going into codding too much would be better to have a scope defined first? Something like.

1. What is what we want to achive?
2. Some example - these details you exposed here for example are pretty good.
3. How does, in general terms, the ecosystem will look like?

Idk, few lines explaining the whole idea/goal.

In general, I think I got the gist of it, but some sort of document to follow alone would be great.

True, you are right. I might be reading too much into what OS meaning.

What are some problems with peergos, other than the obvious, just curious.

Regarding the walled gardens vs privacy and standardisation, isn't the solid project exactly what you describing?

That protocol in theory should help you do exactly that: build whatever apps on top of data. I had several attempts with it but its vastness is straight up disarming

Honestly, chances of a new OS to chatch on are pretty slim. I think something like a soft-layer/psudo os using the infrastructure we already have, might close to reality.

I too am into wasm, but the wasm ecosystem it's still young and not yet well standardized.

There is pointnetwork, same as urbit, they went to rewrite the internet :) and they keep adding things.

Changing such core things like the os is pretty hard, my feeling is by adding an os (pseudo) on top of any current os might be simpler and feasible.


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What I find a bit funny is that all these promises and all the sovereignity and everything, we still put the code on github.

So? Go check openai, see if you spot any resamblance

https://openai.com/policies/privacy-policy/

They are identical.

It's all about the money. You are probably among the very few having a stady income throug donations, but many who built are not that lucky.
People just want to earn something and honestly I don't think zaps is the answer. I am not even go into the nips which some are are insanely complicated.

Stop calling people normies. Everyone is complaining about slow adoption of btc. Well! Let's start with respecting one another and stop being condescending.

I honestly don't understand the purpose or the need of this network.
I think we are about full of social networks :))

There is nothing to target. They already targeting fully encrypted pkgs.

https://gfw.report/publications/usenixsecurity23/en/

If you leave 100usd on a table and not do anything with it and return in...say 5 years what would you find? The same 100usd, with today economy, probably even less stronger than they were 5years ago.

You might want to say the same about other classic assets but is not the same.

Probably more than 50-60% percent of the globe not even heard of btc, 15% heard of but don't know what is it. Who has it stack it... what is the point of having it?

I swear to god I don't understand the value.
While a piece of art, or a house or gold and cash for that mather (safe heaven assets), have a teoretical value, but that value can become tangible when you sell that thing. Same goes with btc. You look at your wallet, probably dispay is showing usd 😉 because 3.543375btc means nothing but 80000usd do and you are proud. Guess what that is a theoretical owned value. Unlike your bank account these money are not actually in your posession.

To lift btc of the ground we need to start moving them around, gain some network effect, it been 16 damn years. C'mon.

Yep. I totally agree with you. The whole thing is designed that way.

All the tips are oriented towards the social scope.

While I appreciate the enthusiasm, the architecture is also faulty. There's nothing decentralized here. I know there are some quality relays out there, but just like back in the day when you had to search that forum, you need to know where they are.

To be frank, I don't see many reasons to have global platforms, but I might be narrow-minded, I don't know.

I don't know what to believe about everything being public, undeletable, and uneditable. I remember how ultra annoying it was on Facebook in the early days when you couldn't edit a comment.

I am not saying not have but you kind of need to trust the relay owner. What if damus pulls the plug? Just like that?

Nostr is a nice concept to prove a point and this is how it started in the first place. But instead of grinding on it a bit, ppl went all in into creating clients and now we have 100 twitter like clients doing more or less the same thing.

There are some apps out here but... I know there is someone who created a multiplayer chess, a spotify like app, a wiki app, but all of this revolve around the same concept. Publishing something. An eccomerce platform for example is more complex.

Time will tell, but ...