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Nostr isn’t just a reaction to what’s broken with legacy social media. Nostr is an active effort to build what comes next. We’re laying the foundation for a future where communities are owned by...
Maybe I've not kicked the tires enough, but I feel a lot of nostr's potential is sidelined by the fact that it's just far too free-of-charge.
Everything is free here, if you want it for free. There is some donation income and embryonic business models that I can see, but surely they cover only a tiny fraction of the wider costs. And clearly there's so much other money floating around that this shortfall isn't noticed.
I think the cardinal sin of the internet is to subsidise things at the start and then "find a way" to get them to stand on their own two financial feet later. This never works and that is a lesson that the internet has learned over and over.
You have to force everyone to pay to take part, you have to force the user base to cover its costs alone. This is the only honest business model there can be for social.
Even if just a little bit, you have to force everyone.
Everything is free here, if you want it for free. There is some donation income and embryonic business models that I can see, but surely they cover only a tiny fraction of the wider costs. And clearly there's so much other money floating around that this shortfall isn't noticed.
I think the cardinal sin of the internet is to subsidise things at the start and then "find a way" to get them to stand on their own two financial feet later. This never works and that is a lesson that the internet has learned over and over.
You have to force everyone to pay to take part, you have to force the user base to cover its costs alone. This is the only honest business model there can be for social.
Even if just a little bit, you have to force everyone.
nostr:nprofile1qqsth7fr42fyvpjl3rzqclvm7cwves8l8l8lqedgevhlfnamvgyg78spz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejz7qnse3k is aligned with White...
I had a look, it's well done, and they are thinking about money from the start, not forced by close to it, even if just a small amount. Very impressive. Years ahead of White Noise I think
Look, if you want privacy, you have to do the work. Governments won't grant it. Corporations won't sell it. It’s on us to code it.
Let’s get to work.
https://blossom.primal.net/2711d733424581fbb...
Please don't make this one of those things where the costs to support the underlying infra become something that "we'll figure out later".
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The price you pay is your time. Donation-based products are financed in this way. You spend your time, and those who want you to spend your time (there may be another reason, that's subjective) spend ...
Posthog is open source, I use the open-source version of that, but I'm pretty sure I'm the product there one way or another. Same with Supabase.
For me, if it's a closed loop between passionate devs and donations, with no other money in the system, then I agree with you. And it doesn't have to be open source, just that closed loop.
But here in nostr is not such as closed loop. There is a lot of money here, clearly. All us free users, we're all the product of something, just not clear what yet.
For me, if it's a closed loop between passionate devs and donations, with no other money in the system, then I agree with you. And it doesn't have to be open source, just that closed loop.
But here in nostr is not such as closed loop. There is a lot of money here, clearly. All us free users, we're all the product of something, just not clear what yet.
The modern web isn’t designed for the user. It’s designed for the advertiser. They track your cursor’s hesitation to predict your weakness.
You aren't the client. You are the inventory.
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Call me old fashioned, but if you're using something without paying for it then you are the product, always and forever.
As far as Nostr goes, I feel like i'm the product. And for White Noise I feel like I'm the product too. Because I'm using both for free, and I know there is NEVER such thing as a free internet lunch.
As far as Nostr goes, I feel like i'm the product. And for White Noise I feel like I'm the product too. Because I'm using both for free, and I know there is NEVER such thing as a free internet lunch.