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Thomas Nagel is an atheist academic, who contends that evolutionary naturalism is self-undermining on the question of rational thought's reliability, and that's a fatal flaw for the worldview of evolutionary naturalism

It's one of the reasons he says the materialist neo-Darwinian picture is "almost certainly false" (or at least radically incomplete)

Nagel, a prominent analytic philosopher and committed atheist, critiques evolutionary naturalism (or materialist neo-Darwinism)—the view that everything about life, mind, and reason can ultimately be explained by unguided physical processes governed by the laws of physics and chemistry, with natural selection shaping our cognitive faculties purely for survival and reproduction

His key claim on rationality is this: if evolutionary naturalism is true, then our reasoning abilities (including the capacity for logic, science, and forming true beliefs about abstract or non-survival-related matters) are the accidental by-products of a blind, non-rational process aimed only at adaptive behavior

Natural selection only "cares" about what helps organisms survive and reproduce, not about whether our beliefs correspond to objective truth—especially in domains like metaphysics, mathematics, or theoretical science

This creates a serious problem:
If our cognitive faculties evolved primarily for survival advantages (e.g., quick heuristics, pattern recognition for predators/food/mates), there's no strong reason to trust them as reliable truth-trackers when applied to big-picture questions

Yet evolutionary naturalism itself is one such big-picture claim—a theoretical worldview built on those very faculties

Therefore, if the theory is correct, it gives us grounds to doubt the reliability of the reasoning that led us to accept it

In Nagel's words: "Evolutionary naturalism provides an account of our capacities that undermines their reliability, and in doing so undermines itself."

He puts it bluntly in his 2012 book "Mind and Cosmos: Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of Nature Is Almost Certainly False.":

The evolutionary story "leaves the authority of reason in a much weaker position" and implies "we shouldn’t take any of our convictions seriously, including the scientific world picture on which evolutionary naturalism itself depends."

This is a self-defeat (or self-referential incoherence) argument: the position "shoots itself in the foot" by eroding confidence in reason while depending on reason to be trustworthy

Thomas Nagel is an influential American philosopher and University Professor Emeritus of Philosophy and Law at New York University, where he taught from 1980 until 2016

He is most famous for his work in the philosophy of mind, particularly his 1974 essay, "What Is It Like to Be a Bat?", which argues that subjective conscious experience cannot be fully explained by physical or scientific accounts

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TahToh · 4d
Let's say I grant you that there was/is some super-intelligent designer/initiator, I'd have to call into question this being's "super-intelligence" due to all the flaws in human biology. You'd think t...
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The big unanswered question about the human genome, is where did the information or code come from in the first place? There is something like 3.6 billion base pairs in human DNA. These are like words or instructions. All our experience tells us that functional information like this requires a mind.

TahToh · 4d
Nobody knows....and I'm content with that.
Follow Me ❤🔥✝️😇↗️ · 4d
No I am specifically talking about the origins of life, the first complex living cells, from basic chemicals under prebiotic Earth conditions. We are unable to produce complex living cells from basic...
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Biomolecules have to be enantiomerically pure, exclusively right-handed or left-handed, to be used in living cells. Chemists can only produce mixtures of biomolecules in the lab due to all the side reactions.

Then there is the half-life problem. RNA has a limited half life of a few minutes to hours or days, depending on the type. Same with other biomolecules. Stability is low outside of living cells.

So how did these biomolecules miraculously come together quickly enough and in sufficient purity and chirality to make the first living cells?

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Ankh- Morpok · 4d
I get where you’re coming from, on millions of planets they probably didn’t but on this one they did. Some call it chance, some call it divine providence. Who knows. But does it matter? Ultimately it resulted in life.
Ankh- Morpok · 4d
I think you’re discounting the millions of years of evolution. Selective biology choosing the best candidate for survival. Known human history is at most 15000 yrs. there’s been millions of years ...
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No I am specifically talking about the origins of life, the first complex living cells, from basic chemicals under prebiotic Earth conditions.

We are unable to produce complex living cells from basic chemicals without intelligent input. We may be able to produce a sludge that contains a few amino acids, but that is all. We are still struggling to produce the biomolecules needed to construct living cells, let alone the living cells thenselves. Simple as that.

So the big question is not about evolution, it is about the origins of life. Even so, neo-Darwinism is no longer considered a reliable hypothesis by some. Have you seen Dennis Noble's serious criticism of Richard Dawkins?

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TahToh · 4d
Let's say I grant you that there was/is some super-intelligent designer/initiator, I'd have to call into question this being's "super-intelligence" due to all the flaws in human biology. You'd think that a super-intelligent designer would code the human genome such that it couldn't produce genetic d...
Ankh- Morpok · 4d
I’ve read Dawkins but not Dennis Noble. But take the same logic of evolution and apply it to planets. Millions or billions of planets with the potential to form life, surely one of them has the right conditions. I actually think many many of them have the right conditions but we are separated by t...
Follow Me ❤🔥✝️😇↗️ · 4d
Biomolecules have to be enantiomerically pure, exclusively right-handed or left-handed, to be used in living cells. Chemists can only produce mixtures of biomolecules in the lab due to all the side reactions. Then there is the half-life problem. RNA has a limited half life of a few minutes to hours...
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When you learn about the immense complexity of our living cells, it should be obvious that the amount of information to design them is way beyond anything that inanimate basic chemistry could achieve alone through some random unguided process

Even with the time of the gaps argument that anything is possible with a few more billions of years

No and the research backs it up

And every year, scientists are discovering even more complexity in living cells, more complexity that they are unable to reproduce in the lab

And we know from common experience that complex systems like this need an intelligent mind to design them

Look at every complex machine that humans have developed

In the case of living cells, a super intelligent mind is required to come up with the information for the design

Even today, with all our science and technology, we are unable to reproduce living cells in the lab under prebiotic Earth conditions

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Ankh- Morpok · 4d
I think you’re discounting the millions of years of evolution. Selective biology choosing the best candidate for survival. Known human history is at most 15000 yrs. there’s been millions of years of evolution before that.
TahToh · 4d
If we're "intelligently" designed, why do men need nipples? Seems like something only women should have. 🤣
LibertyGal · 3d
Exactly
JEC2K · 3d
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