JSKitty on nostr

Amethyst is using an older (deprecated) version of the Concord spec due to refusing to update unfortunately, so it has compatibility issues.

For Vector, either on GitHub or our Community is perfectly fine ( https://vectorapp.io/hub - that option will absolutely be added in the next update, just a client limitation as we focus on making the app easy for non-Nostr users. 🙏

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𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔𝖛𝖎𝖈𝖍 · 2w

Fantastic! I hope my enthusiasm shines through my critic. I look forward to test it!

𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔𝖛𝖎𝖈𝖍 · 2w

JSKitty @JSKitty 1790023948

What client was that? That is not the intended experience, all members of a Dissolved community can still permanently see the history, the Owner client of course may locally delete it, as they requested to, but members see the full, locked history forever.

𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔𝖛𝖎𝖈𝖍 · 2w

Ok, good to know, thanks for clarifying. It was a very early version of Armada, i'm sure that oughta be resolved by now. That means my only remaining issue with the decentralization argument in the concord vs. nip29 debate is that i haven't found an app that allows me to use my own infra for concord...

𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔𝖛𝖎𝖈𝖍 · 2w

JSKitty @JSKitty 1790023479

“Misbehaves” in what way?

If you mean by compromise, that is a user error, in the same way you should not let your Discord account or Bitcoin wallet keys be compromised, users (and clients) have a responsibility to protect their keys.

If not by compromise, but general outrage, the same thing applies, a Discord Server owner may delete (or disband, in our case) their entire community, that is always how it’s been.

This is a social problem rather than a technical problem.

Still, for users that understand Multisig (99% of the world that use WhatsApp, Discord, Telegram, don’t know what Multisig even means), we will eventually support that in the future as a niche feature.

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𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔𝖛𝖎𝖈𝖍 · 2w

Well, i tried to delete a concord i was the owner of and it worked: everyone in it lost every message, reaction they'd ever shared with the group except of course what matters: the friends they made along the way. Which is inherent to nostr itself. (no anon was harmed in my little experience)

𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔𝖛𝖎𝖈𝖍 · 2w

> If not by compromise, but general outrage, the same thing applies, a Discord Server owner may delete (or disband, in our case) their entire community, that is always how it’s been. > > This is a social problem rather than a technical problem. granted, and nip29 offers the infra needed to solve...

𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔𝖛𝖎𝖈𝖍 · 2w

JSKitty @JSKitty 1790022547

Decentralisation is a vast advantage, NIP-29 is a plaintext database that can be deleted, seized, or shutdown, Concord is a decentralised and encrypted stream.

𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔𝖛𝖎𝖈𝖍 · 2w

Every concord is entirely governed by one single npub, right? No matter how many relays hold the concord, what happens if this key misbehaves? Genuine question i ask beacause my nip29 server is governed by 3 ssh keys, and groups on it can be ported to another nip29 server, that includes the signed...

𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔𝖛𝖎𝖈𝖍 · 2w

Concord makes a few assumptions too. If the owner-key misbehaves you're fucked, regardless of what server it is on. Having ran xmpp cand matrix, i find the trade off of nip29 very handy. Essentially, ...

JSKitty @JSKitty 1790020671

Multi-owner (governed or collaborative) Communities in Concord are a future plan, but unncessary in 99.8% of cases.

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𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔𝖛𝖎𝖈𝖍 · 2w

Sure thing. I have good hopes for multisig and in far more places of nostr than group chats. my point in case remains: decentralization is not the advantage of concord over nip29. e2ee definitely is though, but that's also unnecessary in 99.8% of group chats. either way, i think you're doing a fant...