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Last I checked the Debian community was unable to achieve consensus on the issue, maybe I've missed something? Debian is my comfy place and I was legitimately sad they didn't immediately rule it out.

alp @alp 1777444893

Every Distro decides for itself, I've heard. If they are Debian-based and Debian decides to support age verification, they can still remove it in their own distro. Like MX, it's deb-based but has also a sysvinit version instead of systemd.

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Kirt R · 13h

Where are you seeing that Ubuntu has age verification?

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alp @alp · 15h

Replying to @Don Dahir

Well, the systemd implementation apparently still makes the age entry optional, but it depends on the installed apps whether they request an age verificaation from the OS or not. Plus, Ubuntu hasn't made a final statement yet, only that they're currently reviewing it legally. But Show more

ابو مريم · 23h

let us know how it goes. still trying to get my fam used to Mint and we are running out of time

alp @alp 1777435566

You probably have about a year or so to decide/switch. I guess.

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Don Dahir · 15h

Damn! That includes Ubuntu server too? In using mint and I don't really wamt to switch if it aint necessary...

alp @alp 1777435439

Well, the systemd implementation apparently still makes the age entry optional, but it depends on the installed apps whether they request an age verificaation from the OS or not. Plus, Ubuntu hasn't made a final statement yet, only that they're currently reviewing it legally. But since they also have a lot of corporate clients, it's strongly expected that they'll comply. As I said, the near future will show, but I think it doesn't look good for Ubuntu.

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Yusuf al-Texani · 22h

I didn't see any age verification stuff for Ubuntu yet, but maybe they're implementing it soon. Thanks for the heads up. I'll try Mint Cinnamon for now

alp @alp 1777407096

This is all still just in the talking stage, no one's implemented it yet. But those 2 distros I mentioned have definitely signaled they're willing to comply, and MX is clearly against it. You only heard it from me first, like insider info. Whoever reads my news is always ahead of the curve. 😏

Yusuf al-Texani · 23h

Linux for Mexicans?

alp @alp 1777406370

MX = MEPIS + antiX

The distro got started back in 2014 as a collaboration between the MEPIS and antiX communities.

* M for MEPIS, which was an older Debian based distro whose main development got shut down in 2014, and their community was looking for a new home.
* X for antiX, the lightweight Debian based distro that still exists today in parallel and is also one of the distros that took a stand against age verification.

The antiX community still actively maintains MX Linux to this day. That's why both distros share a lot of tools, for example the MX Tools have antiX roots, and both offer sysvinit as an option, which is something you hardly see in mainstream Debian distros.

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Yusuf al-Texani · 23h

I was just about to install Ubuntu. Should I install MX or Mint or something else instead? I haven't touched Linux in almost 20 years

alp @alp 1777406155

Can't tell tbh. Just trying out MX. Heard a lot of good things about it. But one thing is sure, if you don't want age verification shiznit, keep your hands of off Ubuntu and Fedora.