My point is it is stupid to virtue signal that you’re a good person for not harming animals while you’re harming plants. Vegans even harm thousands of rodents and insects via mass farming. Avoiding harming every single multi-cell form of life is an exhausting and endless exercise. Individual adults can draw their own lines for their own lives. I don’t believe is is moral to force children or pets to be vegan. (Inb4 anybody’s eating pets reply.)

Ultimately, I believe it is moral enough to continue most regional predation hierarchies as is. It is complex and there are many nuances. There is no universal guideline that should apply to every village globally.

Does sentience require a CNS?
If yes, sponges and jellyfish don’t suffer?
If no, damaged plants release chemical distress signals. They alter behavior (growth patterns, resource allocation) to avoid damage. They prime defensive responses after initial exposure, functionally similar to sensitization. Root tips show oscillatory electrical activity that some researchers compare to neural activity.
So plants have no neurons but do have sophisticated signaling. Yet you think they don’t suffer?
Given that we don't understand consciousness, how can you be certain enough about plant insentience to justify killing them without moral concern?

Why? 😂 We both know it’ll disappoint. Protect your time.

Motion to ignore it completely

Homeless people and cig smokers are metabolically healthier than much of chronically indoors population…

Has been for many years

Get a freezer alarm

But what if you are served something poorly prepared at a restaurant and shit yourself? 😂

Paul may get his face punched in Vegas