Thinking of you both, and your families. Tough times 🫂

It was an odd question which seemed to have no bearing on the thread you began, but I actually did answer it referring to the many evil capitalist developers producing value (personal profit) through investing their own capital in infrastructure, subscriptions and tokens to manage AI agents that are orchestrating tons of value for many consumers all over the world. And that is the key, they risk their capital, in the hope of profit. The hired labour does not. And the labour here is the AI agent army, unless you think we should all share our profits with those too?

You write a lot of words but I don’t know what your actual point is. Mine was that you misrepresented the entire point of capitalism being to hire workers to then profit off their labour. It is not, it is about risking one’s capital in exchange for the hope of profit, and accepting losses when that capital is miss allocated. (If it was actually fair market capitalism, which it is not).

But hey, knock yourself out with the socialism friend. We all started there, it sounds nice

What is wrong with profit? That’s the entire point - produce value. How many filthy capitalists are using IA agents right now to create all sorts of value? Are we all exploiting our poor clankers? But that was not my point. You said the whole point of capitalism was to exploit labour when it clearly is not, it’s about risking capital to create value. The key is that capital is risked, so n the hope of profit. But if there is no risk for some, close to the money spigot, politically protected, too big to fail or whatever else then it’s not a competitive market at all. It’s corporatism, croney capitalism or state socialism, something very different

I see the problem, you don’t know what you’re talking about: “the whole premise of capitalism is hire a bunch of workers and then profit off of their labor”

Also, and me

I actually quite like the flat earth/last taboo rabbit hole but this is retarded

Football

I’ve managed to avoid knowing what kpop was all this time, until you Americans ruined the World Cup with it

I sincerely hope so. And I’m sure it will be the one you want most

That sounds like a good idea. Or a bad one. But that’s ideas for you. Do what makes you more you