@Phantasm @:blank: @lain, author of the quixote @silverpill @Gay, loud and annoying ! :flag: :transdprk: @Blurry Moon > Look, Pleroma is in no position to bake a feature, and say "take it, or leave it" and expect everyone interested to take it, or pull a Mastodon and force it on everyone through, the shear number of users. If you want to do groups properly, for which there is interest in the FEP community and also in the Mastodon community which used guppe quite a lot. I think it would best not to half-ass it and deal with the consequences later.
oh yes the FEPs, that's much better. Where cooperation == "discuss things to death, and then Mastodon ends up controlling the outcome anyway".
Before: Mastodon forces it on everyone through shear number of users
Now: Mastodon pretends to cooperate with the FEP process, and then essentially has veto power so they force it on everyone through shear number of users.
Like their Quote Posts. Do you think if Pleroma, Akkoma, and Honk showed up in the FEP process and said "this is terrible, you shouldn't do quote posts this way and you especially should not be trying to design features at the federation level that limit/restrict interactions to posts because it's an honor system and won't work anyway", that they'd have listened? Three votes from three stakeholders in the fediverse mean nothing when we don't have the userbase size of Mastodon.
At this point we either seize our own destiny or accept our fate as shit on the boots of Mastodon.