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gojiberra · 10w
is this Bitcoin Per Share (in Sats) really true? i just calculated $180 share... that just seems too good to be true. makes me very tempted to sell bitcoin to by MSTR, which is a big "no-no" but it's ...
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That sats per share figure doesn’t take into account the senior claims on the Bitcoin (I.e. from debt + prefs)

It’s still a useful metric tho. The senior claims are denominated in fiat. So (if you’re a bitcoiner you might assume they’ll) tend in the long run to zero against the bitcoin

CEBE sats per share subtracts the senior claims. It’s at ~140k sats rn which is below the current share price. https://cebetracker.io/company/MSTR/
𝕞ptf · 10w
Although not your keys, not your corn 🌽 is still in play
𝕞ptf · 10w
dude, take your head out of Saylors ass and look at it from the perspective of people buying MSTR now.. THEY FUCKED! Same as STRC... it is only a matter of time before he has to reneg on the dividen...
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I disagree.

If you buy MSTR thinking you’re gonna outperform BTC by the end of the year. Sure you might get fucked. If you’re time horizon is 5-10 years, today is a much better entry than last summer

They are *categorically* nowhere near close to having to “reneg on the dividends”

If you actually look at the numbers… they have about 30 years of dividend coverage. I.e. Bitcoin could drop ~70% from here & it would still take about a decade for them to run out of money
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gojiberra · 10w
is this Bitcoin Per Share (in Sats) really true? i just calculated $180 share... that just seems too good to be true. makes me very tempted to sell bitcoin to by MSTR, which is a big "no-no" but it's tempting nonetheless--if that 219,360 Sats/share + Bitcoin YTD of 12.5% is really true. https:/...
𝕞ptf · 10w
I don't disagree with you man and in theory you are right. Saylor is a slow rug, like most stocks. Appreciate your opinion, has some merits.
𝕞ptf · 10w
It has a chance to comeback. STRC Dividends probably need to be dropped though 😅. Reputation damage from that might hinder the stock
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They can comfortably afford to pay the dividend & raise it by a % or two to get it back to par.

They can sell BTC / MSTR to fund divys, which might be dilutive to the common in the short term. But BTC yield YTD is at 12.5%. What more could you ask for in a bear market 🤷‍♂️

Honestly, BTC yield could go negative for a year & it wouldn’t invalidate the business model
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𝕞ptf · 10w
dude, take your head out of Saylors ass and look at it from the perspective of people buying MSTR now.. THEY FUCKED! Same as STRC... it is only a matter of time before he has to reneg on the dividend promise...
⚡️Ghengis Steve (daddy/爸爸) · 10w
I can’t recall any company that offered yield that survived a 70% draw down their market Whether they collateralized your bitcoin and issued loans against it at favorable rates, or they held onto it to generate a yield, I know people who got wrecked in every cycle, but this is structured with con...
𝕞ptf · 10w
It has a chance to comeback. STRC Dividends probably need to be dropped though 😅. Reputation damage from that might hinder the stock
𝕞ptf · 10w
There are no returns until you sell. MSTR was a good buy before the stock split, but since then the dilution has been unprecedented. I believe he has broken records for the index.
𝕞ptf · 10w
MSTR is just a scam. BPS is meaningless if MSTR holders get diluted to fuck and their balance sheet goes down.
𝕞ptf · 10w
STRC isn't 6 years.
𝕞ptf · 10w
All ponzi schemes start off good
Logen · 10w
Do kwon said the same thing.
𝕞ptf · 10w
Wtf is that?
Spherecell · 19w
Can anyone give concrete examples of how STRC is risky ? Genuinely trying to steelman why STRC could implode.
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iirc they can pay the dividend in perpertuity as long as BTC goes up by at least 2% a year on average. (as it stands now)

However, that could change if they irresponsibly issued way too much STRC tho.

But if there's too much demand for STRC & it trades above $100, they don't HAVE to issue more, they can just lower the dividend rate.

Sorry, didn't rly answer ur question...
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Spherecell · 19w
I know !! I'm having a hard time poking holes in the STRC thesis. I have enough restraint not to YOLO my home equity in there but I know many will. uUuUusually this kind of behavior ends badly. How can it ..?