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Nedokončil studia na vysoké škole života. Mužský rod, tykej mi. ADHD. ⁂ 🇺🇳 🇪🇺 🇨🇿 🇺🇦 🇬🇱

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SpráFce obsahu instance f.cz. Odpadní teplo datacentra ISP SPOJE.NET, kde tohle běží, se využívá. Solární cyklista, cestovatel. Linuxák, ex-programátor (Arachne), ex-muzikant. Fanoušek kosmického výzkumu, vědy a techniky. Zakládající člen Pirátů. 🐧 🚀 🐘 🚲

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Jupiter Rowland · 2d
@Chao-c' BTW I had account on identi.ca, which was StatusNet powered (I believe). It was. At least until Evan and Erin could no longer justify it running on that janky OStatus protocol. The result was...
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@Jupiter Rowland as I said earlier, I am fascinated by SNAC2 written i pure C :-)

At one point at time, I had a project of template processor, compiling page templates directly to C binary and then running them from fastcgi module (these days it was Apache, but fastcgi in nginx would be even faster).

I was thinking about decentralized federated social networking (or blogging, chatting) for years, but the issue I had on my mind was always the performance, not the protocols. But the web architecture got way too complicated over the years - even 20 years ago, it was already pretty complicated.

Anyway, to redirect millions of corporate users to independent federated environment, you need more than a bunch of buggy, 10 years old apps in various obsolete scripting languages. Mastodon is not ideal, but at least maintained.

For me, the issue is not "Mastodon dominance in Fediverse". The problem is rather "why people trust BlueSky, instead of us"? Currently, being as visually compatible with BlueSky, as possible, is probably the only way to persuade at least some BlueSky users, that Mastodon is actually way to go.
Jupiter Rowland · 2d
@Chao-c' The wiki reveals even different timeline: "The wiki" sounds funny to someone who has three wikis of his own on his Hubzilla channel. Anyway... To me, it seems, that Gargon simply was not as ...
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@Jupiter Rowland BTW I had account on identi.ca, which was StatusNet powered (I believe).

Whatever the history was, the Mastodon is updated quite regularly and somehow makes sense. But as it is maintained by non-profit and not by startup, there is decent chance, that there will be no motivation to completely cut competing platforms, as you are fearmongering. We will see.

I agree, that PR strategy is crucial for decentralized systems, technology is definitely not enough.

One person releasing pro participating in way too much partially incompatible platforms seems not the right way to go... as I read your long history of federated social media.

I even believe new future platform is needed. It should be be integrated with decentralized search (like YaCy, but much better, using feedback from federated timeline) and aim to fully replace e-mail (long, end-to-end encrypted direct messages, with file attachments...) and also allow regular publishing (like blogposting using CMS).

Yes, and it should not be implemented in Ruby or PHP or something like that. I have seen one online discussion forum being rewritten from PHP to Rust few years ago, and the improvement in responsiveness of the web platform was amazing. (I do C, not Rust, but C is too oldschool now, and the performance penalty of Rust is minor, probably not noticeable at all)

So you really can't sell me Friendica or Hubzilla, but I may wish to participate in analysis or development of future federated tool, which would aim to replace search engine, web freemails (not being connected to anything but Fedi, no gateway to SMTP, but replacing e-mail functionality), also more chat-like format for direct messages, of course full timeline of statuses like Mastodon, but with more advanced blogging and calendar/event planing features.

Basically, I call for ActivityPub enable groupware, which would be more useful for small companies or nonprofit groups as replacement for not only Xitter, but also stuff like Teams.
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Jupiter Rowland · 2d
@Chao-c' BTW I had account on identi.ca, which was StatusNet powered (I believe). It was. At least until Evan and Erin could no longer justify it running on that janky OStatus protocol. The result was the ActivityPump protocol, the pump.io software and Identi.ca's switch to pump.io with all hands on...
Jupiter Rowland · 2d
@Chao-c' Also, ALT text translates with the rest of the post, which can be helpful for images which contain only foreign language text. Hubzilla is the most incompatible ActivityPub software in Fediv...
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@Jupiter Rowland well, I am probably in between Gargon and Mike Macgirvin, when talking about age. Anyway, I never thought Mastodon was first.

The wiki reveals even different timeline:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub#Software_using_ActivityPub

To me, it seems, that Gargon simply was not as colossal nerd, as others, and somehow managed to create cult following of sufficient number of users, which were not really techies.

While Mastodon seems very simple and feature lacking, it is still very hard to explain to people without technical background, like journalists. And it is hard to motivate people to move from corporate platforms to alternatives.

I was thinking about need for decentralized social media since at least 2009, as I was watching the old web to slowly loose any relevance. (My Facebook account was canceled without any explanations as soon as perhaps sometimes like 2010?). I was thinking about basing it on bunch of combined RSS feeds, the publicly compatible vs. the activity stream, which is not so different from from like ActivityPub is made today, except that signing of content with public keys is more advanced concept, that what I was able to imagine.

I created first account on mastodon.social in 2018 and for two years, nothing much was happening. In 2020, I incited existence of mastodon.pirati.cz, the server of Czech Pirate Party, but I manged to get f.cz running only in 2023, year after the Twitter exodus of 2020, when most other Czech instances appeared.

The problem I have with Hubzilla is that I don't like how mentions and hashtags are handled. At least you learned, that I am aware of nomadic identity, which would make the Hubzilla status markup somehow meaningful, but without it, the context is next to useless - in most Fedi apps, not only Mastodon.

The only "breaking of ActivitPub" I am aware of is the consent based quoting.

BTW, all specs on the Internet evolved, Netscape played major role in evolution of HTTP, HTML, Javascript...
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Jupiter Rowland · 2d
@Chao-c' The wiki reveals even different timeline: "The wiki" sounds funny to someone who has three wikis of his own on his Hubzilla channel. Anyway... To me, it seems, that Gargon simply was not as colossal nerd, as others, and somehow managed to create cult following of sufficient number of users...
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@nprofile1q... přiznám se, že ti moc nerozumím, ale já filosofování vzal před lety a nemám ambice mu rozumět.

Myslím, že pro tebe je klíčové patřit do nějaké sekty "správně smýšlejících" a mít jasno v tom, kdo jsou špatně smýšlející a vést s nima kulturní válku.

Mě jde jen o to, aby si oligarchové přestavěli soukromé tryskáče na elektriku a aby nebránili lidem jezdit lítat na elektriku místo na ropu. To je asi všechno. Nepotřebuju oligarchy zrušit, protože někteří lidé budou vždycky chtít pocit, že patří do privilegované kasty. Ndpotřebuju dostat všechny do vlaků a MHD. Nepotřebuju válčit s polytyrénovýma cyklistickýma přilbama jako @ cobic

Nemám maximalistický osobní životní ani politický program. Pokládám některé věci za důležité a jiné za méně důležité. Vzdal jsem řadu sociálních her. Hru ma VŠ vzdělání jsem vzdal už před lety, sleduju Dory lapálie s úsměvem a pochopením. Metriky, co jí zadali maximalizovat, jako absurdní a kontraproduktivní. Hru na vlastnictví partnera nebo partmerky jsem vzdal před lety. Celé LGBTQ a manželství pro všechny a tak sleduju s údivem: v populaci je většina singlů, i děti vychovávají singlové. Střídavě. Bydlí spolu, když nemají kde jinde. Manželství skončilo. Zasloužilo by si muzeum manželství...

Prodívej, já Snyderovi nepřeju nic zlého, naopak hezký důchod v Kanadě. Je to určitě fajn člověk. Ale nevidím ho vůbec jako zásadního myslitele pro to, co nás čeká. Je užitečný pro vedení kulturních válek s těmi, které označuješ jako "zlouny". Ale mě kulturní války nezajímají, protože neřeší nic.

Mě přijde, že si vůbec neuvědomuješ, jak vzdálená je dnešní civilizace, společnost a kultura něčemu, jako řešení své současné existenciální situace... máš svoje zájmy, svoje priority. Ok.

Nemám šanci ti vysvětlit, proč řeším balancer k solárnímu kolu (a tím i čemukoliv jinému), místo abych si četl knížky a přemítal nad celkem všeho a nad svým zapojením do společnosti a tak.