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OtterSparx | ฮ˜ฮ” ๐Ÿฆฆ | โ˜€๏ธ๐ŸŒ’ | ๐Ÿ”œ FWA · 1w
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Tathar makes stuff · 1w
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@nprofile1q... And derivatives and integrals are defined in terms of infinitesimal quantities dy and dx and the standard part function in place of a limit. If you remember the real number definitions of each, or even just the graphical explanations (slope and area under the curve) you can pretty easily guess what the hyperreal definitions are without ever seeing them.
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OtterSparx | ฮ˜ฮ” ๐Ÿฆฆ | โ˜€๏ธ๐ŸŒ’ | ๐Ÿ”œ FWA · 1w
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OtterSparx | ฮ˜ฮ” ๐Ÿฆฆ | โ˜€๏ธ๐ŸŒ’ | ๐Ÿ”œ FWA · 1w
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@nprofile1q... The hyperreal numbers extend the real number line to include infinities (defined in terms of omega, an infinite number strictly greater than every real number) and infinitesimals (defined in terms of epsilon, or 1 over omega).

The closest thing to a limit would be the standard part function st(), which just takes the closest real number to a finite hyperreal number. The hyperreal definition of e is just st( (1+epsilon)omega ).

If you ever wondered why you could treat infinity as a number and it almost always works, you were just using a less formal version of hyperreals. The formal version fixes the cases where it doesn't work.

In the hyperreal domain, 0.9 repeating is not 1, but the standard part of 0.9 repeating is.
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Tathar makes stuff · 1w
nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyd968gmewwp6kyqpq78vd5v45wtej6athxedjs2csavl8qldapzhukcgcjecvgeg80mzsvzkzce And derivatives and integrals are defined in terms of infinitesimal quantities dy and dx and the standard part function in place of a limit. If you remember the real number definitions ...
OtterSparx | ฮ˜ฮ” ๐Ÿฆฆ | โ˜€๏ธ๐ŸŒ’ | ๐Ÿ”œ FWA · 1w
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Tathar makes stuff · 1w
nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyd968gmewwp6kyqpq78vd5v45wtej6athxedjs2csavl8qldapzhukcgcjecvgeg80mzsvzkzce you don't need limits to define e in the hyperreals either: https://youtu.be/dyjlRi8nuw0?si=I2xEnw9PwVrH91hR&t=570
Tathar makes stuff · 1w
in this house, there are infinities upon infinities, and they all have names
Tathar makes stuff · 1w
in this house, there are more numbers in between any two real numbers than all of the real numbers themselves
nostrich · 1w
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Tathar makes stuff · 1w
in this house, we treat dy and dx as numbers
OtterSparx | ฮ˜ฮ” ๐Ÿฆฆ | โ˜€๏ธ๐ŸŒ’ | ๐Ÿ”œ FWA · 1w
nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyd968gmewwp6kyqpqjvrljj4jyvuwkflq2ucxerruprum6lj2ju4kjzp3gtaawf42uefsd2l2x5 Real answer: if 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + ... = 1 then 0.9 repeating = 1 if 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + ... merely *approaches 1 then 0.9 repeating also merely approaches 1 Just depends o...
Tathar makes stuff · 1w
in this house we don't believe .9 repeating = 1