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El
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Writing things down.

DMs (that actually reach me):
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Relays (9)
  • wss://relay.damus.io – read & write
  • wss://nostr.bitcoiner.social – read & write
  • wss://nos.lol – read & write
  • wss://purplepag.es – read & write
  • wss://relay.primal.net – read & write
  • wss://relay.nostr.band – read & write
  • wss://relay.nostr.bg – read & write
  • wss://onchain.pub – read & write
  • wss://relay.current.fyi – read & write

Recent Notes

The Beave · 13h
He's frustrated with latest gen (5th wave? 6th?) Feminism and not exactly taking it out in you, specifically. Not that I have to justify everything he says... I am just sympathetic to his point of vie...
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IMO, some people derive enormous satisfaction from having their intelligence recognized. There’s nothing inherently wrong with seeking intellectual validation. But when someone feels the need to demonstrate intellectual superiority at the expense of others, hijacking a conversation to put their own intellect on display, complete with straw man arguments and condescension, I recognize that as intellectual performance rather than a genuine attempt at constructive dialogue. There’s no value in it, and I have no interest in participating.
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The Beave · 11h
That's probably the best way to handle it. 🎉
mleku · 6h
see, this kind of attitude is why my recommendation was to mute me. because you sure as fuck aren't going to get me to care about your opinion.
Laeserin · 21h
Mleku isn't misogynistic. He talks like that to everyone.
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Reducing women’s interests to nursery decorations, gynecological matters, and gender-related grievances sounds pretty misogynistic to me. And the phrase “being offended about gender issues” adds another layer of condescension, implying that women’s concerns about sexism are merely emotional grievances rather than legitimate subjects for discussion. And talking like that to everyone doesn’t make it any less misogynistic.
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The Beave · 13h
He's frustrated with latest gen (5th wave? 6th?) Feminism and not exactly taking it out in you, specifically. Not that I have to justify everything he says... I am just sympathetic to his point of view at times.
mleku · 6h
so what is this little screed if it's not muh women's on the internet issues? isn't that where this started from? isn't that what the op is about? and you don't want to engage with it? and you are going to follow this up, as you did, with claims that this was about someone else being a smart arse wh...
The Beave · 14h
Loooool! Noooooo! I can guarantee she's not saying that. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Laeserin · 11h
Yeah, okay, have fun with your feminism. Life's too short. Goodbye.
OwenG · 1d
I think your assessment is correct. My posts are all over the map and few get any traction, but that’s not why I’m here. I joined at the tail end of what seemed to be a mass exodus/return to X. I ...
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That’s actually one of the things I can’t quite figure out about Nostr. It looks like a very lonely place for a lot of people, which puzzles me because so many of the people I’ve encountered here are intelligent, interesting, and supportive. Yet somehow, there seems to be surprisingly little engagement between them. I can’t quite understand why.

How long have you been on Nostr? And what do you mean by a mass exodus back to twitter? Why twitter and when did that happen?
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Scott ••• · 23h
Just throwing my opinion in here, I’ve been on Nostr for a few years. I was never a big enthusiast of social media, but was encouraged to check out Nostr by one of the developers of Brainstorm, which was in its infancy then. Nostr was described as a practical way to sell artwork for Bitcoin. It...
OwenG · 9h
I’ve been on NOSTR, first DAMUS now Primal for ~1-1/2 yrs. It seems to me the exodus occurred ~4-6 mos ago but for me to state that with confidence, I lack data. I’m sure somebody keeps NOSTR statistics somewhere. The lack of revenue/attention is what likely led to this. I’m puzzled also. I be...
The Beave · 1d
Pfft. I'm not a good example. I'm a paranoid idiot. I actively prevent my likeness from being disseminated as much as I can. I know that everything sent via the nostr protocol is logged at some point...
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Thank you for the compliments. They’re kind, and I genuinely appreciate them, along with all the help you’ve given me. But I have to admit, receiving a compliment at the expense of other women feels rather strange.

Now, as always, it boils down to discoverability. How on earth were you finding all these women selling pictures of their body parts when I can’t even find people interested in sailing or bread baking?!

As for privacy, I understand now that it’s a personal choice, and I respect yours. I’ve made similarly unconventional choices that other people find odd and then question. For example, I’ve never drunk alcohol or tried any drugs (although I was given drugs between the ages of 3 and 5).

What bothers me is that the caution of longtime Nostr locals has become contagious. I was perfectly comfortable with the idea of sharing more of my life until I started noticing how carefully people who’ve been here longer protect even the most ordinary details about themselves. And now I feel almost forced to choose between protecting myself and expressing myself. Protecting myself from whom, exactly?

And how am I supposed to find my people if I never reveal enough of myself for them to recognize that I’m their kind of weird?

So I’m trying to figure out how to participate in a place that celebrates individual freedom without allowing everyone else’s caution to make me second-guess my own choices.

And I do hope you managed to get some sleep after that difficult week. When are you coming back?
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Laeserin · 21h
For the record: I am morally opposed to anyone, male or female, of any age, selling sexual services or sharing sexually-explicit imagery of themself in a public forum. People peddling sexual services are whores or pimps, by very definition. They harm themselves and the people who consume their garb...
Raison d'État · 21h
Ma'am, I haven't seen much sailing content, but I see sourdough bread and baking content fairly often. #cooking might be a good hashtag to click and follow.
The Beave · 14h
Why should you not receive a complement at the expense of others? Is that not what a compliment is, at its core? Everything from "you're pretty" to "you're exceptionally talented at belly button scrying" is, in fact, a setting apart from others. So... Your confusion mildly confuses me and amuses me....
Laeserin · 1d
> You make it sound as though women’s willingness to be on a social network depends on how much validation or attention they receive. If that were true, women would flock to male-dominated Nostr. I...
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That’s genuinely surprising to hear, because my experience so far has been almost the exact opposite. From my very first day, people have been welcoming and have gone out of their way to help. The warmth and engagement I’ve received have been far beyond what I expected. In fact, last night’s exchange was my first encounter with misogynistic attitudes here.

How many years have you been here? And is there a girls’ club around here I can join? :)
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mleku · 1d
mysogynistic? see i wouldn't even bother remarking that i don't encounter stupid misandry very often on nostr either, but here we are.
Laeserin · 22h
I think it's been three or four years. Since Elon took over Twitter. It's much quieter, now. The Bitcoin Bros have all calmed down or shut up, and the Neonazis and pedophiles and etc. have been muted into obscurity. You can still see their remnants, sometimes, if you read directly from the Primal r...
Laeserin · 21h
Mleku isn't misogynistic. He talks like that to everyone.
Goose_in_Gensokyo · 21h
there are some heartwarming girls, I can give you their npubs if you wanna to join them 💃 🍯
mleku · 1d
> Nostr doesn’t have to abandon its cypherpunk principles, but it cannot expect mainstream users to adopt those social habits as a condition of belonging. Whatever happened to freedom of choice? yo...
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“Get house-owner decision-making power”? Who owns the house? lol

Anything published online can be preserved and used against someone. Nostr isn’t that special.

I highly doubt ordinary women who don’t stay on Nostr were planning to post anything likely to become incriminating court evidence in the first place.

What makes Nostr more dangerous for women, and how exactly would The Algorithm protect them?
mleku · 1d
the irony is that "opsec" is deeply embedded in the "cypherpunk" culture of nostr and selfies and showing your real life are done at a cost you make a lot of noise about when you do it. people don't ...
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The discussion was about why women don’t stay on Nostr, not whether Nostr should resemble conventional social media. That’s a straw man argument. What makes Nostr more dangerous for women, or how an algorithm would ordinarily protect them?

Nostr doesn’t have to abandon its cypherpunk principles, but it cannot expect mainstream users to adopt those social habits as a condition of belonging. Whatever happened to freedom of choice?

As a normie woman who’s been here for almost a month, I can tell you that the culture of secrecy makes the environment difficult to understand and, at times, uncomfortable. And that’s precisely what can make a social network feel not so social.
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mleku · 1d
> Nostr doesn’t have to abandon its cypherpunk principles, but it cannot expect mainstream users to adopt those social habits as a condition of belonging. Whatever happened to freedom of choice? you can make your own nostr, with blow and hookers if you want to. you can't expect to be the visitor ...
Laeserin · 2d
Women don't stick around Nostr because it's the hardest place on the Internet for them to get a follow or a response, except maybe Grindr. Grindr. Nostr. Hmm.
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You make it sound as though women’s willingness to be on a social network depends on how much validation or attention they receive. If that were true, women would flock to male-dominated Nostr.

If women don’t stick around, I suspect it’s because many prefer a certain degree of transparency and accountability. Here, I can’t even tell whether I’m talking to a man, a kid, or a bot. There’s something rather unsettling about walking into a room full of masked strangers who all seem to know one another while you’re the only one wondering what’s going on.

Just yesterday, after nearly a month on Nostr, I decided I’d start sharing more of my life (pictures, little videos, personal thoughts). Then today, @The Beave , someone whose judgment I respect, posts a selfie looking like a knight in full armor and announces that’s the only kind of selfie anyone will ever get from him.

And now I’m wondering whether he knows something I don’t.

Maybe women are leaving because they can’t figure out why everyone seems to be hiding. And rather than spend a month figuring out the rules of the masquerade, they just go back to Instagram.
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mleku · 1d
the irony is that "opsec" is deeply embedded in the "cypherpunk" culture of nostr and selfies and showing your real life are done at a cost you make a lot of noise about when you do it. people don't realise that modern norms about social media amount to a kind of public confession ritual and if you...
Laeserin · 1d
You have to remember that a lot of the guys on here are nomads, or living in self-imposed exile on a mountaintop or in the backwoods, or think the NSA is gonna take notes on what they had for dinner last night so that it can reverse-engineer their private keys. I arrived here, years ago, and it was...
Laeserin · 1d
> You make it sound as though women’s willingness to be on a social network depends on how much validation or attention they receive. If that were true, women would flock to male-dominated Nostr. I am very grateful that Nostr has de-bachelorified enough that you don't realize I meant that women w...
The Beave · 1d
Pfft. I'm not a good example. I'm a paranoid idiot. I actively prevent my likeness from being disseminated as much as I can. I know that everything sent via the nostr protocol is logged at some point. Given the power of immutable digital identity and attestation, I understand that there is no delet...
🟠 isolabellart · 2d
Sì, assomiglia molto a Telegram. Però non ho creato nessun gruppo. Mi sono solo unito al gruppo pubblico ufficiale di Anagram: nostr:naddr1qvzqqqyx7cpzps0uwaclt7jp3lf6cjfzrgv0rx6zejm6vc763uzvh0mvpryq6g93qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgu3wvdhk6tcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszyrhwden5te0dehhxa...