Out of all the bitcoiner debates this is the most boring.

Let 110 happen. Sell the loser. For gods sake end this shit already

I choose to believe. Something interesting needs to be adopted during the bear… that’s the whole point of build markets!

get people to overshare

Interesting. Will have to do some thinking to see how it lands here.

First impression is that L402 is “closed” as in every service provider can set their own rules, yet “permission-less” since no third party is needed between buyer and seller.

I could be wrong… dumb human here. Consult Claude for higher level thinking 😅

Also, ai agents are indistinguishable from humans. Service providers don’t have to care who’s on the other end if they can prove they paid.

The macaroon spec has been pretty formalized by Google since 2014, but really there hasn’t been enough adoption to uncover or establish best practices.

But, if successful, one can easily imagine interacting with all their web services as if they were cash businesses.

Pay, get access to whatever you paid for. No need for service providers to build a “user” table or collect payment info. The authorization token with each request tells the server everything it needs to know. Totally stateless.

As far as I can tell, you’re good!

IMO the real rabbit hole for devs selling services to humans or agents via L402 is macaroon construction.

Basically in exchange for sats, what does the token grant access to and how much/how long?

It’s not rocket science, it’s just different reasoning than most devs are used to.

Kinda like bitcoin or nostr, you need to unlearn a bit before you can appreciate its design.

Working on L402 stuff at OpenNode. Super bullish, but yet another rabbit hole to fall down 😅

Seems like my kind of people