I would agree SOHO gear has stagnated big time, and yeah power draw is definitely not something to be overlooked. Latency is also kind of a thing. Newer gear can often be snappier while it uses less power. Now middle-grade enterprise gear is basically the same way. You can't really get a 24 port 10g switch for under $3000. The prices tell you everything. You buy the cheaper used gear and you pay the price in learning curve or tech dept.

Funny I did a little consumer hardware comparison. There is a reason the Ryzen 5900x is still holding it's price while everything else fell off. Because the price/performance (platform + memory included) isn't worth it. I've been looking for a cheap 5900x to upgrade my workstation to.

Not sure what message I gave with that. But most stuff went to scrappers when it probably could have been used by someone had the timing worked out or people were incentivized to make an effort.

Absolutely whack XD

I had listed anything for even a penny, most stuff would have gone to better homes.

Yeah for sure! I learned this lesson giving stuff away on Craigslist. Never ever list anything as free. I did once, my phone stopped working because I was getting too many text messages.

"Can you hold X for me"
"I have to drive a hour I need a guarantee it's there"
"Put that aside Im 5 minutes away"

me: No. heres the address. First come first serve. I don't give a fuck who or what you are.

It was so funny too. We had a TV, well over 30 people asked to either hold it, or test that it works, or send more pics. No. Come get it.

After about an hour it was one of the last pieces to go, and some tiny dude rolled up in his scrap truck and took it to pieces, presumably for precious metals, and left the case on the road. It was a working TV and despite the interest it got torn to peices. I learned a lesson that day.

XD

I get to see this on the back end with insurance from a family member. People love to complain about insurance, and yeah things are butt fucked, but you should also see the shit 1000s of people pull all day long + ambulance chasing law firms. People suck $10,000s out of insurance policies for a bumper that got tapped. Some people have legit issues, arguably most are "scamming" the insurance company and they know it, but it's cheaper to settle for an asinine amount of money than it is to go to court for other BS reasons. I'm not defending insurance, companies, but once things can be abused, people abuse it, and it cost everyone else.

Let it out XD

I just hear Thomas Sowell every time I look around. I can't help it. Sad that it's true.

It's also hard describing what that actually looks like that to people who are for socialized healthcare in our existing culture/system. I argue we already have it, just go to your local ER and see what comes in. To be fair I hear most of this through family friends who are ER nurses in the city.

You've read Basic Economics right?

Yup. I've been pricing out even older gear when I was expecting to upgrade by now.

I can only account for this year, but, I tracked prices of used server gear and specifically storage (memory and disk) trended with US sanctions. I can't say that's the cause, but that's the coloration I noticed.

Chassis, CPUs and just about everything else except for networking stayed on the same depreciation trend if you try to account for inflation. Ram is the most expensive part of a used server chassis right now. That excludes modern epyc, threadripper, and xeon saleables.

10G networking equipment was cheaper used for 4 years than 10 right now.

Servers built in 2014 are still being leased and deployed by smaller businesses.

Hardware prices be insane. I should pull all the memory out of my cluster and sell it right now.

Paying $128 for 16GB of used DDR4 2666 rdimms is fucking insane https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=pc4-21300+ecc+rdim

I paid less than $500 for wholesale lot of of 48 sticks 3 years ago.

Thanks for the info and I read the guide! I ask because I do a bit of private and commercial hosting. I have lots of hardware available so I wanted to understand the circumstances, so that's out. I'm still floating the idea of a media/cdn service and may be trying out some new VPS providers. If I find one I like that I like and can keep it isolated from my business I think I'd like to contribute.

Damn. I feel like that's going to go pretty quick. Over here on the east coast that price could get you a tuna can, maybe with a window.