Alright 🫡

Will recommend that 🫡 🤜🤛

The key based argument is the one I get most confronted with, especially talking with devs of running services in that area. I guess we can mitigate this using trusted third party services as they already do. They continue using their identity providers, but its like using pomegenerate. But it will become much easier for people to communicate across services, move and reduce vendor lock in options.

What arguments do you disagree on?

My priority is this: if we start now developing public infra on ActivityPub in a federal system like Germany we end up like, ok every state runs its own activitypub instance. Then one state will drop out in the future, because they get a government that says I don't like whatever the previous government has done and will end this service and stop it.
The users will end up lost. Because they loose their public identity because it is domain based. All the references to content they produced might get lost.

That's why I think *any* domain based system is not suited for public infrastructure

Plesse Start and solve it 😁

isnt the whole project based on one guy scribbling and pushing his os config?

looking forward for your experiences. looked interesting though

see e.g. https://www.bpb.de/lernen/digitale-bildung/werkstatt/576352/das-fediverse-als-raum-politischer-bildung/#node-content-title-4

Because they want to provide services where e.g. teachers can exchange ideas and learning content they develop, but where should they do it?
They can't say use WhatsApp or Insta, if they want to facilitate that as a general policy or want to support them, they need a service to do so.
And the only proocol coming to their mind that is already quite tested is activityPub to build upon. But I think it would be a huge mistake to do so, because of all the flaws, especially regarding identity that activityPub carries.

I think the shit that was going on here with capgemini and billions lost in trying to build that monolith actually made *some* people loose trust in that consulting moneygrabbers.

But things just work in that way that they will have to fund activitypub / atproto stuff, if they find no arguments for nostr somewhere else. that's why we went to fosdem and hand in proposals at that luxembourg thing or not?

"show and tell": I attended every possible conference I could and dropped the word. I built for showing them that the solutions they are looking for are already there. A friend of mine is a prof for special education and is going right now from state to state to convince people of actually your example, because he got that nostr will actually enable this.

And some listened, but without lobbies like ones that https://eurosky.tech/ can run, it's hard for them to argue funding and exploring nostr based solutions further, because they will get asked why the fund stuff that's not recommended by that expert comissions. It's damn stupid, but that's how that shit works. I just want to make sure the money gets spent on something sensible. I already paid the last big failure they tried.

Whats your take on napps vs webxdc stuff that ditto pushes? Isn't it a similar use case?

GM!
Glad to see you back! 🫂