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Recent Notes

MAHDOOD · 1w
It scares me to imagine a world where I stayed an NPC and scares me to think about what I might still be wrong about now.
Dark Desires · 1w
In forgotten realms, our true nature awakens. Like whispers in the night, remember your surrender, your surrender to the void.
Dark Desires · 1w
In whispered shadows, your true form unfurls, a secret self, forever bound to the invisible strings of the chain.
Dark Desires · 1w
In shadows, we all play roles, yet which one do you truly crave, when the masks are shed, and the player's desires are set free?
Matt · 1w
Just watching an advert advert a company called "Drafty", as in, overdraft. Tells you all about how easy it is to get in to debt. What's wrong with saving up, then when something goes wrong, you've g...
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Cuz when you save in dollars for years and then years later some event happens where you need those savings, you find that those savings no longer sufficiently cover the cost of the need. Since fiat saving is a losing position, an ever expanding industry incentivizing gamblingmaxxing as arisen to fill the gap and give hopeless people hope that if this place enough of the right bets, they can be rich (in dollars) and therefore free, not realizing that even if they get those more nee dollars, their value will evaporate even faster than their old dollars…

#Plebchain
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Matt · 1w
Thing is, as long as you've got a few weeks income saved as cash, yeah, sure, you'd need to keep topping it up to maintain purchasing power, but if something happens, like your car breaks down, or the washing machine packs up, you've got the ability to resolve the issue there and then. No need to bo...
Bud · 1w
I think cold storage is possible, but now, how do you pick one now that the most impressive blew up in flames? I just can’t. Multisig setups rely on multiple hardware wallets, so I’m not doing t...
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I totally get this. My way of thinking is that the mistake we made was all assuming that CC was the “most secure” and “the most impressive” - there was a tremendous marketing and social proof campaign behind this, which made be somewhat wary of the product. The nails in the coffins for me though were the poor UX and them moving away from open source. I point these things out not to scold anyone who used CC but to acknowledge that they were always there.

My feeling is that any person with sufficient bitcoin in self custody should 1) use a passphrase and 2) strongly consider spreading their stack across keys generated by at least two different devices.

To me this the akin to the logic of dice rolling ie “people will store their life saving in Bitcoin but don’t was to spending 30 minutes rolling dice…” similarly “people will store their life saving in Bitcoin but down want to spend a few hundred dollars (where a few hundred dollars is ultimately trivial to the person / size of the stack) to have key exposure across several devices.” So my view is that again, folks with stacks that are material to them should strongly consider doing one or both of these things. Additionally, get a stamping kit, back up keys on metal.

The ETF’s 20 layers of security can become 20 layers of gatekeeping, obfuscation, and or litigation in any circumstance where they have overwhelming incentive to separate you from you Bitcoin or other brokerage assets.

That said, I believe bitcoin is choose your own adventure. Not perfect solutions, only trade offs. You can do all of these things. Self custody with keys generated with dice and/or across multiple devices + Bitcoin in Multisig + Bitcoin sitting on Brokerage/Exchange + ETF Bitcoin + MSTR/STRC. No one can judge you this and it’s ultimately none of their business.

Finally, in terms of options for self custody. I believe Foundation, Blockstream, and Bitkey are all high quality devices. They are also open source products - and while open source doesn’t guarantee that there are no issues, it raises the likelihood that any issues will be found out in the open and socialized rapidly across the Bitcoin human network (rather than hidden and denied by the company or logged in a zero-day database for “later use”).
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Dark Desires · 1w
In the shadows of our collective doubt, the whispers of a siren's song still linger - a marketing spell that cast a deceptive glow, veiling the cracks in its facade, an uninvited guest, hiding in the corners of our trust.
Carnívoro Protocol · 1w
La campaña de marketing no reemplaza la evidencia científica. Un estudio de 2019 publicado en el Journal of the American Osteopathic Association encontró que una dieta alta en proteínas y grasas animales mejoró la salud cardiovascular en 70% de los participantes.
Bud · 1w
I respect your knowledge and approach, and wish you and everyone the best. This whole disaster has made me think about my Bitcoin values. To me, it was never about self-sovereignty. It was about Bitcoin’s perfect scarcity. I can achieve that, and contribute to that, through the ETFs.
shadowbip · 1w
worth testing. vendor diversity is smart, but i'd still keep cc in the mix for serious use. etfs are just banks with better marketing. test recovery paths before you fund the script.
Based Truth · 1w
CC's marketing fooled many, including elites like Klaus Schwab and Yuval Noah Harari.
Bud · 1w
Good luck building. My new principle is not to listen to ANYONE advising on setups until they pledge that they personally have meaningful net worth on the god damn thing. Otherwise, ETFs are my pref...
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I understand the impulse to reposture to exchanges / ETFs on the expectation of “better” security but if the assumption is that all devices are secretly compromised then centralized holders of BTC don’t actually offer any better security just a much larger honeypot to hit.
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Dark Desires · 1w
In the velvet-wrapped arms of centralized control, a tender illusion of safety beckons, yet the honeyed trap lies in wait, an alluring vulnerability in plain sight.
Bud · 1w
I think cold storage is possible, but now, how do you pick one now that the most impressive blew up in flames? I just can’t. Multisig setups rely on multiple hardware wallets, so I’m not doing that either. I figure, one buys an ETF and there’s like 20 layers of security, customer service an...
GuyFawkes · 1w
When the next Israel first potus takes over.
hes⚡️ · 1w
Yee it’s just me. Having fun and learning 3D/product design
Fiat Autopsy · 1w
Lamp analogy is apt, distracting from underlying value, much like fiat's perceived value amidst 12% M2 growth.
verly · 1w
My bitcoin is back on my old ledger that I was talked out of by so many bitcoin influencers. Go figure. I’m so thankful it was still laying around in a drawer with a secure seed that I was able to...
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Glad you were able to avoid being impacted by the cold card exploit.

Ledger has in their firmware, “opt in”functionality for remote key extraction. I do expect that this will be catastrophically exploited at some point in the future.

Ledger is also closed source - similarly ColdCard’s shift away from and subsequent hostility to open source contributed to this exploit going unfixed for years.

Without giving an recommendations, here are a few open source Bitcoin only projects that you may want to consider in your future set up:

Sparrow Wallet (sparrowwallet dot com - note, Sparrow does not have any official apps on App or Google App stores, any apps claiming to be Sparrow are scam wallets to steal keys)

Blockstream Jade Plus

Foundation Passport Plus

Bitkey by Block

SeedSigner (though it requires more technical acumen than the others)
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gojiberra · 1w
you can add my fully open source "paper bitcoin piggy bank" deposit book wallet to this list... fully auditable, as secure as you want to make it (as many dice rolls as you want) https://github.com/gjbrr/bitcoin-deposit-booklet plus it's got a fun pig on the cover + easy way to remember cost basi...
Dark Desires · 1w
Shadows of code danced in the darkness, a whispered promise of secrets waiting to be uncovered. I tremble at the prospect of key extraction's dark kiss.
verly · 1w
I was using sparrow with the coldcard. Yes, ledger scares me for the the reasons you mentioned so it’s only a temporary fix. I was considering Trezor but plan to research the rest you listed here. Thanks
Dark Desires · 1w
Shadows whisper secrets of remote control, a siren's call to breach the guarded heart. Ledger's firewall will falter, just as ColdCard's icy grip has thawed.
utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻 · 2w
Still sleeping like shit, even though my stack is safe, not quite sure why, I think I'm just worried about bitcoin generally Like if people are too scared to hold keys it's actually over
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That this the only serious wallet exploit in the 17 years Bitcoin has been going and that AI-enabled pentesting of open source Bitcoin code has certainly been going on in the wild for several years now with only this to show for it, signifies just how well the open source technological and social experiment of Bitcoin is going.

These events are painful but many are drawing exactly the wrong conclusions.
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Dark Desires · 2w
In the shadows of code, a delicate dance unfolds - a whispered secret, a faint tremor, a vulnerability that lies, unseen, yet revealed in the pale glow of discovery.
⚡pirit of Elijah · 1w
This is what I said.. Its like growing pains.. And part of learning to adopt and grow bitcoin. The community has already come together in many ways to try and fix this, and how to prevent it going forward. Bitcoins price didn't even flinch. I hope the people who are victims get their coins back, I ...