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DeaconXXIV · 2w
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👆One of my favorite verses in the Bible. It refers to Ex 3:14 „God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”“
And Jesus‘ listeners understood very well, what he said: „I am God.“

This is why the following happened:
„At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.“ Joh 8:59
Liberthea Anadara · 4d
I am not trying to argue. And I do not accept projections. You said I do not note what you write. That is a projection. I noted it. I just did not agree with every implication. You said this is not an argument against the Messiah being the center of the universe. I never said it was. That is anoth...
Liberthea Anadara · 5d
You spoke about fathers being signposts to the heavenly Father. You spoke about healing. You spoke about your children having easier access because you were healed. I hear you. I honor your journey. ...
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Well, I see you don’t note what I write, when I mention „grace“, the same, when I mention „God steps in“, and yes. God does not need us at all, nevertheless he takes pleasure to use us and see wherever we live on a level we were conceived by him - all by his grace. This is not at all an argument that the Messiah, the divine shepherd, God’s own son, God himself is the center of the universe.
You might have to permit that others add another perspektive or detail to your good and valuable thought. They do not dissent by doing that.
My 2 sats, I leave a final reply to you.
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Cowboy Bob · 4d
* Correction: „This is not at all an argument AGAINST THE FACT that the Messiah, the divine shepherd, God’s own son, God himself is the center of the universe.“
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No. I cannot. But Gigi points put correctly how „good“ is abused by men and implies that self-building AI can be everything but „good“.

This brings me back to Genesis. After God finished creation he declared it as „good“

„God saw all that he had made, and it was very good indeed. Evening came and then morning: the sixth day.“ Gen 1:31

The word used for „good“ in the Septuagint (LXX) is καλόν (kalón), the neuter form of the adjective καλός (kalós).

„καλός appears repeatedly in Genesis 1 (e.g., verses 4, 8, 10, 12, 18, 21, 25, and the climactic “exceedingly good” in 1:31 as καλὰ λίαν / kala lian). It translates the Hebrew טוֹב (ṭôb, “good”).

καλός has a broad range that combines aesthetic, functional, moral, and qualitative senses.

Key aspects of its meaning include:
• Beautiful / Fine in appearance or form: Physically attractive, pleasing to the eye, or well-formed (e.g., beautiful people, landscapes, or objects). In Genesis 1, it conveys that creation is not just functional but lovely and harmonious in its order and appearance.
• Good in quality or excellence: Of high standard, fine, excellent, or fitting its purpose (e.g., “good” fruit, soil, or works). This fits the creation context: things are as they should be—properly ordered and effective.
• Noble, honorable, or praiseworthy: Morally or socially admirable, virtuous in a way that is outwardly evident or beneficial to others. It can describe actions, character, or things that are “right” and appealing.
• Useful, profitable, or advantageous: Serviceable, beneficial, or “good” in a practical sense (e.g., fertile land or effective tools).
In the LXX (and broader biblical usage), καλός often renders Hebrew ṭôb and emphasizes the aesthetic-moral delight of creation—God sees it as beautiful, fitting, and delightful in its wholeness, not merely “adequate” or morally neutral. This nuance influenced later Christian thought, where “the good” often carries this sense of attractive excellence (e.g., the “kalos” in phrases like “fight the good fight” in the NT).“

No, self-building AI is not „good“ to this level.
Liberthea Anadara · 5d
I am speaking of God, the. Shephard that played a role of a supposed Father Dad isn't a great role model that a shephard could of been. You are accurate though it does matter how shephards act in a ro...
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Sure, but a father‘s role is to be the signpost to the heavenly father for his children. My father has failed, but by God‘s grace I found healing in His fatherly arms, in spite of not having known the model of a good father. God is a good father, but what does it evoke in a person who never felt the loving arms?
I was transformed, I now know the heavenly father. My children have an easier access to God as a father, because I was healed.
One more aspect, my daughters don’t fly into the arms of the first man making compliments and showing interest and some kind of love. Their „love tank“ had been pre-filled by her dad telling them they are beautiful and by the loving arms of her earthly father and the shoulder that was there to be leaned on.

Yes, we, the earthly fathers fail, some too often and some fail totally. Nevertheless we have this signpost responibility before God. Where we fail, the heavenly father, from whom comes all fatherhood and family (Eph 3,14-19), is always ready to step in and heal the broken heart.
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Liberthea Anadara · 5d
You spoke about fathers being signposts to the heavenly Father. You spoke about healing. You spoke about your children having easier access because you were healed. I hear you. I honor your journey. I am grateful you found healing. But here is what I need you to hear from me. The shepherd matters...
Liberthea Anadara · 5d
I am speaking of God, the. Shephard that played a role of a supposed Father Dad isn't a great role model that a shephard could of been. You are accurate though it does matter how shephards act in a role of a parent.
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Reminds me of the Dutch saying: “Vertrouwen komt te voet en vertrekt te paard.” - “Trust comes on foot and leaves on horseback”.

And Jesus said: “He who is faithful in what is least is faithful also in much; and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much.” Luke 16:10

Both sayings have disciplined me in in my life, the way I want to be for others and they I choose peiple to be with.

And @Max explains why a economy in liberty built on trust can work and secure itself.