You always need to check your bag. Don’t trust, verify 😂

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That is correct. Interacting with traditional finance rails in Europe is a regulated activity. We need to abide by these rules in order to be able to give you:
- a fully working VISA debit card
- a personal vIBAN in your own name

However, we design our products to work with your self-custody so that you retain the control of your BTC, and do not have to deal with capital being frozen for whatever reason.

No FX fees if spending in non-EUR fiat. You would get the interbank rate.

The only service fee we charge is 1% conversion fee for BTC.

If I remember correctly, the main difference is that you would have to manually sell into the BitPay card, which just spends fiat at that point.

It's like selling BTC into your bank account and then using that EUR balance with your traditional debit card.

Instead, with wavecard:
1. You hold BTC until the last possible second before paying at the shop (no manual pre-loading)
2. It connects to your Lightning wallet via NWC that allows for automatic topups to replenish the card with more BTC after each payment.

No one is forcing you to be a taxpayer in the jurisdiction with 20% capital gains.

It's great that you managed to create such a bubble around yourself, where a few basic merchants are enough for your lifestyle. However, it's naive to think that you will get the early majority to live on the Bitcoin standard like this. It's already hard for them to digest the volatility, let alone the lifestyle changes required to be able to pay only in BTC directly.

Most people:
- shop groceries in supermarkets that take EUR
- need to pay for flight tickets/trains/public transport in EUR
- need to pay their landlord in EUR
- subscribe to services online with EUR
- pay taxes in EUR

All of that can be done either by holding discretionary EUR balance, or by holding zero EUR and selling at the last possible second via wavespace. Even most avid Bitcoin evangelists end up holding EUR balances they are not proud. We solve for that, and with self-custody at the front.

You just refuse to make even one step down from your moral high-ground, posing your highly sacrificial lifestyle as the only way for masses. Which just further distances ordinary people, and actually slows down the adoption.

I'm quite sure most Bitcoiners end up holding EUR balances that they are not proud of. We solve for that.

This whole shaming of people who still have to interact with legacy finance out of pure need is just so counterproductive.

From user’s perspective, he is spending BTC from his self-custodial Lightning node connected to wavecard via Nostr Wallet Connect. Yes, Bitcoin is sold to fund the purchase, but ONLY because the receiver is not taking Bitcoin. It’s basically selling Bitcoin on behalf of the merchant. If 99%+ of society takes fiat today, how are you supposed to pay for groceries, pay rent, buy tickets?

Our users sell Bitcoin not because they want to, but because they don’t have anything else. If you have cash around, you’re essentially shorting Bitcoin. But if you’re all-in BTC, then you have to sell it to live. It doesn’t matter if you sell it to non-KYC gift cards, or you automate it via wavecard, you’re still selling. We’re not trying to deplete people’s stacks. Actually, they stack even their disposable fiat income into BTC, because they are confident that they can spend BTC instantly, and not worry about not being able to pay one way or another.

Let’s be realistic here - our product is not for those Bitcoiners that already went underground. This won’t make them KYC, like it won’t make you KYC. We’re not competing with whatever setup you have to pay for your life. We’re competing with other debit cards that are all KYC’ed regardless, like Revolut. Except, at least we can offer a Bitcoin-only debit card that spends from self-custody and doesn’t require you to hold shitcoins (fiat included).

If you’re already using debit cards, ours is the best option today. The first step to living on real money in self-custody.

I don't know on what planet do you live on where everyone around you accepts BTC directly, but please come to Europe and try living your life where 99% of merchants and landlords want Euros in exchange of goods & services.

I mean you can keep posting the same ignorant screenshots over again on each post, but it just doesn’t work like that with debit cards.

These cards do not create any new fiat in circulation, it’s simply a tool to be able to spend your BTC, when it’s not accepted directly. These cards sell BTC on the merchant’s behalf at the market rate, since they are the ones that want to be paid in fiat.

This is just a tool to operate in the legacy world that is lagging behind

Nope