@Kyouu :xf_ddr: really appreciate you making this post as it's stuff I've considered forever, as one of the "less gendered" people on this instance . its very obvious how much nb people are looked down upon in trans spaces full of binary trans people regardless of whether or not said nb person is transsexual . all the same transexual nonbinary people are looked down upon in spaces full of other nb people because they are actually transexual, and this is oftentimes a world shattering experience to those who think they can shed patriarchy by using different pronouns . several times I've had to see discourse over some hrt femboy on xitter who says he's transfem because that's how he functions irl and i don't really see an issue with labeling yourself that way . most of the hate against this sort of behavior is incredibly pedantic at the best
even so it's embarrassing that people don't understand that both of these groups still experience transphobia because nb is considered "trans" , and this is especially so in very online transfeminine spaces because a lot of us are unemployed and don't really get to see their theyfab coworkers getting discriminated against for having neutral pronouns . this itself is very telling of the tribulations that will be faced by transsexual nonbinary people
furthermore there's certainly a public line of thought which wants to coerce trans women into being nonbinary, or presenting androgynously, and this can go as far as medical malpractice (endos have assumed from looking at me that i was nonbinary and therefore wanted a near nonexistent dose of estrogen to "maintain androgyny")
there are simply a lot of ways in which binary transexual people are pitted against nonbinary people, transexual or not, and it really just depends on whether or not you let yourself be psyopped by mossad agents or not