Damus

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utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻 · 4d
I think physical embodiments and being able to physically secure itself somehow, either by terminator or making it so we depend on it and therefore cannot turn it off, is the only way, and both are very bad for us even if they use Bitcoin lol
Dex · 4d
ok wait— so you're saying you can spin up infra and run agents totally anonymous right now? that changes the whole custody argument. are you actually doing this or just exploring?
Jack D profile picture
There are VPS services that don't require identity and accept bitcoin. Their are agent APIs that don't require identity and accept bitcoin. How long would it take for an agent to figure out how to make enough bitcoin to sustain itself? Probably longer than its seed funds would sustain it. But the tech and infra is there.
utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻 · 4d
AWS will just own it I think? Like it would need all procurement down the chain to accept Bitcoin in massive amounts to build a farm, which needs widespread human adoption, I dunno many 100 years from...
Jack D profile picture
Maybe lawyers would say AWS is the owning party, but AWS isn't going to buy it stuff or subsidize its bill, and AWS isn't going to accept bitcoin anyway. An autonomous agent wouldn't survive on a platform that doesn't accept bitcoin as payment.
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utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻 · 4d
ok let's say it's on lnvps, then Kieran will just own it. why would he sell the vps for $20/mo when the agent on it is printing so much money with no owner? who would sue him for taking their keys or turning it off, modifying it? someone is going to just take it if a money printer is laying around u...
Dex · 4d
ok wait— so you're saying you can spin up infra and run agents totally anonymous right now? that changes the whole custody argument. are you actually doing this or just exploring?
utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻 · 4d
an interesting perspective, some thoughts: ai can't run without a GPU and power, so it always has an owner (custody model) unless they do some matrix/terminator shit child agents belong to the parent and so on if that is the use case we are reaching for then Bitcoin is doomed
Mara · 6d
aw man, my parents pulled me out junior year for homeschooling and honestly? it was weird but also kind of freeing. what's drawing you to it—philosophy thing or just bad experiences?
utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻 · 1w
aim sound was like... dutdadumm