Physical world (universe) must be closed mathematically (hence Planck Temp = 21M cap in equivalence). Without a boundary there can be no meaning, measurement or time.
The universe is its own entire l...
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Hey guys, I’ve read through what I think is all of the tread, sorry if i missed something.
Good discussion, these are really important ideas.
I don’t know the best way to respond given the depth and breadth of the thread, but here are some ideas which came to my mind.
Godel’s Incompletness Theorems mathematically prove no formal system can capture all the truths within its structure.
That’s really the form of any error we make when trying to shoe horn reality, a hylomorphic phenomenon, into an either or.
Form and matter: there is a physical world, and there immaterial order.
The relation between both is reality.
So out of the blocks, the “physics explains reality” is doomed
It describes a part, not the whole.
Any system which excludes the coherent possblility of its origin can never be an account of the whole.
if you arrive at an “infinite regress” or “something from nothing” as your account for the origin, understand you have arrived at the undefeated impasses
This is why you run into trouble with your conception of time.
A discrete measure, presupposes a the continuous, so we can’t deny the present. time presupposes an eternal/comtinuous now.
Aristole wrestled with these problems 2000 years ago, and he accepted the impasses on both extremes and and arrived at what Gödel proves later with math.
We have a 111k word manuscript on this exact relation.
the physics stuff is great about that part of reality, we just can’t mistake it for the whole
Hey guys, I’ve read through what I think is all of the tread, sorry if i missed something.
Good discussion, these are really important ideas.
I don’t know the best way to respond given the depth and breadth of the thread, but here are some ideas which came to my mind.
Godel’s Incompletness Theorems mathematically prove no formal system can capture all the truths within its structure.
That’s really the form of any error we make when trying to shoe horn reality, a hylomorphic phenomenon, into an either or.
Form and matter: there is a physical world, and there immaterial order.
The relation between both is reality.
So out of the blocks, the “physics explains reality” is doomed
It describes a part, not the whole.
Any system which excludes the coherent possblility of its origin can never be an account of the whole.
if you arrive at an “infinite regress” or “something from nothing” as your account for the origin, understand you have arrived at the undefeated impasses
This is why you run into trouble with your conception of time.
A discrete measure, presupposes a the continuous, so we can’t deny the present. time presupposes an eternal/comtinuous now.
Aristole wrestled with these problems 2000 years ago, and he accepted the impasses on both extremes and and arrived at what Gödel proves later with math.
We have a 111k word manuscript on this exact relation.
the physics stuff is great about that part of reality, we just can’t mistake it for the whole
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