Totally agree. Unfortunately more discomfort is needed

On second thought though, I may be a bit too optimistic. It could be more like 20 years. I think it depends on people realizing that they have the power. I think of the movie a bugs life and how it's so representative of the current times humanity is in. The grasshoppers are stealing all our food ...

I know in my experience without great suffering I wouldn't have transcended suffering and its cause.