Damus
ZLogic · 3d
I suppose there is some virtue in running but it seems like a fairly flimsy proposition too assume that there will always be somewhere to run to. If you believe in Divine Providence, and you say that ...
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To be clear, I'm not saying that it would be wrong for them to have fought. Self defense is legitimate, after all.

I'm only using them as an example that even a totally Pacifist group (as in, wont even defend themselves with aggression), can produce a coherent and functional social group that self governs.

If that's the case, then the moral argument for coercion evaporates. There is simply no justification for it, and all who engage in it are given over to Evil.

Mutually beneficial win-win interactions are the ideal, and anyone telling you otherwise wants to exploit you.
ZLogic · 3d
I can see what you mean, but there are a thousand things that could invalidate your example that neither of us would ever know. That's why in science you need an experiment you can repeat reliably. I'm not seeing that many repetitions of pacifism. Amish are embedded, the mnemites ran to unsettled la...
ZLogic · 3d
And what about all the hundreds of groups of people pacifist or not who have been completely eradicated by the groups they are embedded in? Where was their pacifist solution?