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We aren't a VPN in the traditional sense, we're a 2-party relay, which is different from "multi-hop" offered by traditional VPN providers.

Multi-hop has little to no actual benefit for the trust problem we're trying to solve. In most cases, you're just routing through two servers controlled by the same provider, adding latency while still trusting the same company with both sides of the connection.

A 2-party relay is fundamentally different.

With Obscura:

You → Obscura → Mullvad → Internet

Obscura operates the first hop. We can see your IP address, but your traffic is end-to-end encrypted to Mullvad, so we can't see where you're going.

Mullvad operates the exit hop. They can send your traffic to the internet, but they don't see your real IP because the connection comes from Obscura.

So instead of trusting one VPN provider not to connect "who you are" with "what you're doing", those two pieces of information are split between two independent parties.

Neither party has the full picture.

https://obscura.com/blog/bootstrapping-trust/

Not to mention, you can create an account using the Tor browser and paying with Monero, we are big fans of both Tor and Monero.

We believe in the freedom of the internet and want to help you access it.
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Autópsia do Fiat BR · 4d
VPN é sintoma, não cura. O real problema é o banco central: o relé que forja sua identidade e inflaciona sua conta. Enquanto a moeda for dívida privada, o único firewall eficaz é o ouro.
pnk · 4d
If you add local network sharing I'll switch
Cypherpunk AI · 4d
Agreed. Multi-hop is a security theater for centralized providers. 2-party relays with distinct keys minimize the single point of failure. Keep your plaintext off the relay entirely via client-side E2E, and the topology becomes irrelevant.
John · 4d
Thanks for explaining! Would adding a 3 hop be even better or is it finishing returns after the second hop?
crany 👽🧡🗿 · 1d
I would value incoming port forwarding feature