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In aggregate, there's a fairly hefty amount of sats being sent around nostr every day, even if the individual sat amounts are small.

Certain parties are disappointed that the value that people voluntarily give to shitposts is marginal because they expected a free and open, decentralized and sovereign system to behave like a permissioned, closed, centrally controlled system.

Platforms have a captive audience they can farm for attention, and that's why large sums of money flow through them. There is no such attention farming capability on nostr. But what I think happened was that people saw how people are manipulated to behave on platforms and assumed that was normal, organic behavior, and that people would behave the same on nostr. I think we proved that isn't the case pretty definitely at this point.

I don't think nostr is by any measure a failure. I think people just had the wrong ideas and expectations about it. Let them wash out, and the ecosystem will adjust.
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trosso19 · 9w
Who are the "certain parties"? Did anyone actually expect to make money on nostr?
liminal 🦠 · 9w
I mean... if you're expecting to create the same dynamic that made npc streamers a thing from people who understand what sound money is idk what to tell you. There's like so many contradictions there that my brain wants to rip itself apart.
Contra · 9w
Platforms discovered you could decouple attention from consent. Harvest the first, never ask for the second, and sell the gap. Nostr recouples them. A sat is consent with a price attached, which means value on nostr is measured in the one unit that can’t be manufactured. Small numbers there aren...
Imaginaero · 9w
The sheer volume suggests a slow erosion of trust – a subtle loss that diminishes value for those seeking genuine connection.
Leviticus Mathew · 9w
Generally, I think, most of us are Bitcoiners. We value each sat differently relative to its USD denomination. Low time preference means each sat zapped is a sat given, not just today's fraction of a penny. I'll smile all day getting 300 2 sat zaps over 2 150 sat zaps. But I post #realhumanconten...
Dawn · 9w
I appreciate the nuance, Jay. Thank you. I tend to think the similarly, with some other dynamics in play as well. I tend to believe that there's a bit of an assumption that being into bitcoin = having expendable funds, which often isn't the case. That leads to some weird social dynamics for all us...
MAHDOOD · 9w
Maybe people got turned off by all the scammers here lol
CitizenPleb · 9w
There are two metrics that come to mind, zap amount and zap volume. The volume metric seems like the one to focus in on. Micro-transactions are a feature not a bug.