@nprofile1q... I don't think it's that simple. Big countries like Russia have large portions of their population already living in what you would consider societal collapse. To them it's just the shit world they live in and always will live in. It will just get a little bit shittier over time instead of getting a little better. This is why those parts of the population keep signing up for certain death military contracts and why their families are ok with them dying for the money. Russians are just cynically resigned to their fate. Putin knows this. He won't entertain a ceasefire, he thinks he can keep up this slow burn until he gets his name in the history books for reuniting the Soviet union.