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Leo Wandersleb
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Nostr is better than Xitter, but it still favors narcissism over merit.

V4V doesn't reward the best builders, it rewards the best salesmen.

There is no centralized algorithm pushing a narrative from a continuum of a billion options, but neither is there a defense against constructed consent. The protocol can't stop the manufacturing of "hero figures" because we are biologically wired to seek leaders and follow them.

I liked Reddit because it was about ideas, not people. You followed a topic and the design almost hid the author. This gave a sense of "Message, not messenger". Nostr is the opposite. It is entirely messenger-centric. This is evidenced by the flood of "GM" and "GN" posts, which would be completely void of value if it wasn't about who was posting them.

How could we nudge Nostr away from this? Some clients allow you to hide authors, but that is just self-constraint. I think we need a protocol layer that constrains participants to focus on ideas but without getting drowned by AI slop.

How would a "late reveal" of authorship work? Authors could prove group membership - being one of my follows and only after a week or so reveal their identity.

Fundamentally I wonder if people want to be heard for who they are, or for what they say? Do I want to be famous, or do I want my ideas to be recognized? I think the latter comes first. We want to be recognized as authors of great ideas.
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Cipherhoodlum · 2w
How is it better?
Bitcoin Awareness · 2w
Agree. Perhaps subject-based clients are needed.
uncleJim21 · 2w
I like the idea in principle but imo its like an engineering approach trying to solve a very fundamental piece of human nature which is propensity to listen to charismatic narcissists
Undisciplined · 2w
Try Stacker News https://stacker.news/ It's reddit with real money signals
paul keating · 2w
A little off topic, but I'm curious your thoughts on getting rid of follower counts
YODL · 2w
We're all guilty of seeking leaders to different extents. It's honestly embarrassing at my age when I catch myself doing it. I like the idea of hiding authors a bit more, could be interesting. Wouldn't really work well for my follow feed, the way I use it, as I often look for who. Is posting or rep...
AU9913 · 2w
How I'm going to try to nudge the protocol that direction: nostr:nevent1qqsg5ykkxf0xz03q96fz0r7lkpfx7rl5kc5tu7gzq4lezk7l03a20gqpzfmhxue69uhkummnw3eryvfwvdhk6tczyrts65qfz5ztnyk3swyz9teyt40kkwskhqkez7kt0yjvaas76jkwuqcyqqqqqqg8dtvxx
Jake Woodhouse · 2w
This is precisely the kind of thinking that makes me love Nostr even more “There’s an app for that” comes to mind as a slogan Ie you can curate the experience that you want Nostr is so versatile, it can create whatever people want it to be I welcome thinkers such as you Leo Keep it up ...
S!ayer · 2w
"I think we need a protocol layer" is the root of general problems. See core version 30
Cykros · 2w
There's a few approaches that could be taken here, including hashtag based following (clumsy) and an LLM based DVM fed the heuristics you're looking for. Nothing says a client has to display the npub of the user who posted a note. It's not totally trivial but it's also quite doable to build what y...