Thethird0cnzo
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Oct 7th is now the official False Flag Day.
9/11 might be the runner up
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Maybe. Maybe not.
https://electronicintifada.net/content/how-hamas-hid-7-october-plans-plain-sight/51678
I think people spend a lot of time underestimating what the resistance can do. Underestimating people whose back is against the wall and who have generations if not centuries of practice in living under the pressure of foreign rule is a mistake some have made before.
But yes, we do know that Likud has in the past funded Hamas; this is a matter of public record. This doesn't, however, seem to be a matter of puppeteering; they were just interference because at the time it was a way to divide the resistance when the PLO was still a force to contend with.
They have an active weapons production industry, using munitions they salvage from the unexploded ordnance that they produce in tunnels. I get people expect that getting one over on the IOF and the security apparatus of the occupation would be in impossibly difficult thing. I suspect not enough people are familiar with the regular stream of their own video footage the Ezzedine Al-Qassam Brigades, or for that matter the footage of Saraya Al-Quds and Hezbollah. Jonelmer on twitter had a video just the other day featuring Yahya Sinwar in Rafah days before his assassination https://x.com/jonelmer/status/2107585433500790882?s=20/.
While you're at it, check out the Ken Burns docuseries on the Vietnam War. Anticolonial guerilla resistance has a way of working even when everything else says it shouldn't.
I could do without all the leftism around it. Very glad we have voices like Saif's to bring a bit of balance. And for what it's worth many of the particularly devout are more in line with market principles. Not terribly surprising, as Islam does have a lot of regard for upright behavior in honest market environments, hence prohibitions on Riba, gambling, insurance, derivatives, etc.
Things are pretty bleak but I think the days of the attack dog that gets away with everything that is the entity are numbered. They may be totally cut down to size but somehow survive as a multinational state, or they may fall altogether. I do have my doubts about how well they can live alongside each other afterward -- though Rwanda perhaps offers a bit of hope, even if it's not all sunshine and rainbows. I've definitely seen some Jews with a will to learn to coexist but you're hard pressed to get people to look past the trauma. To say nothing of just how much was stolen.
The history of the theft of land and everything in Palestine is tragic, and it does predate even the first aliyah. Under Ottoman rule, in 1858 they required that land be registered with the state for clear titling and tax. For a variety of somewhat complex reasons (some of which were around conscription to the foreign Turkic wars), it resulted in non-Muslims registering more land, as Muslims would end up just still living on the land to work it. This is why you hear so much about how "Israelis didn't steal land, they bought it." It's often true that it did start this way, though clearly they've taken far more in the time since. The issue is that while non-Muslims owned the land prior, it was only at this event that they were suddenly pushed off the land.
This show's worthwhile for that pre-invasion history: https://fountain.fm/show/prl4eCKyyIgs6hXqjChR
Anyway, yea. There may well have been some intrigue. I won't pretend to know every bit of spycraft and cloak and dagger deal that goes on. But I do think just calling it a false flag is at the very least one dimensional.
https://electronicintifada.net/content/how-hamas-hid-7-october-plans-plain-sight/51678
I think people spend a lot of time underestimating what the resistance can do. Underestimating people whose back is against the wall and who have generations if not centuries of practice in living under the pressure of foreign rule is a mistake some have made before.
But yes, we do know that Likud has in the past funded Hamas; this is a matter of public record. This doesn't, however, seem to be a matter of puppeteering; they were just interference because at the time it was a way to divide the resistance when the PLO was still a force to contend with.
They have an active weapons production industry, using munitions they salvage from the unexploded ordnance that they produce in tunnels. I get people expect that getting one over on the IOF and the security apparatus of the occupation would be in impossibly difficult thing. I suspect not enough people are familiar with the regular stream of their own video footage the Ezzedine Al-Qassam Brigades, or for that matter the footage of Saraya Al-Quds and Hezbollah. Jonelmer on twitter had a video just the other day featuring Yahya Sinwar in Rafah days before his assassination https://x.com/jonelmer/status/2107585433500790882?s=20/.
While you're at it, check out the Ken Burns docuseries on the Vietnam War. Anticolonial guerilla resistance has a way of working even when everything else says it shouldn't.
I could do without all the leftism around it. Very glad we have voices like Saif's to bring a bit of balance. And for what it's worth many of the particularly devout are more in line with market principles. Not terribly surprising, as Islam does have a lot of regard for upright behavior in honest market environments, hence prohibitions on Riba, gambling, insurance, derivatives, etc.
Things are pretty bleak but I think the days of the attack dog that gets away with everything that is the entity are numbered. They may be totally cut down to size but somehow survive as a multinational state, or they may fall altogether. I do have my doubts about how well they can live alongside each other afterward -- though Rwanda perhaps offers a bit of hope, even if it's not all sunshine and rainbows. I've definitely seen some Jews with a will to learn to coexist but you're hard pressed to get people to look past the trauma. To say nothing of just how much was stolen.
The history of the theft of land and everything in Palestine is tragic, and it does predate even the first aliyah. Under Ottoman rule, in 1858 they required that land be registered with the state for clear titling and tax. For a variety of somewhat complex reasons (some of which were around conscription to the foreign Turkic wars), it resulted in non-Muslims registering more land, as Muslims would end up just still living on the land to work it. This is why you hear so much about how "Israelis didn't steal land, they bought it." It's often true that it did start this way, though clearly they've taken far more in the time since. The issue is that while non-Muslims owned the land prior, it was only at this event that they were suddenly pushed off the land.
This show's worthwhile for that pre-invasion history: https://fountain.fm/show/prl4eCKyyIgs6hXqjChR
Anyway, yea. There may well have been some intrigue. I won't pretend to know every bit of spycraft and cloak and dagger deal that goes on. But I do think just calling it a false flag is at the very least one dimensional.
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