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Is my career safe from AI? We're all thinking it.

A winemaker's future isn't as simple as "a robot will take my job."

I'll benefit from the first wave of automation through better software tools for marketing and production. When I zoom out, I see robots working my vineyard, trained more precisely than any human.

A robot can't make good wine though, right?

Most wine, especially in the USA, is ready for robotic production. Massive wine operations focus on reproducible, consistent, and formulaic results. This doesn't create interesting wine, but it's big business.

Winemaking is a balance between art and science. A robot will definitely be able to complete the science based tasks, but the question remains: Can AI do art?

There's this concept of "wu" from The Man in the High Castle - this soul-connection between maker and creation. You notice it when AI images lack that certain something that gives it soul or makes it feel real.

AI will get better and better at replicating soul. The masses won't care, they already don't, and will appreciate cheaper wine.

My career future rests on whether people care enough to spend the extra money for wine with soul produced by a human.

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stupleb · 3d
Without customers, I'm not sure it even matters.
Keith Meola · 3d
I do 🖐️
Willheim · 3d
Well... What about when they analyze a vintage that is in peak form, break it down to its molecular structure, and then replicate it? Ultimately, it's chemistry. We'll end up with the question of "soul", or "wu" (Chinese/Japanese for "holy/spiritual" and linked to Buddhism), or "wabi sabi" where t...
₿itcoin Makueni 🇰🇪 · 3d
The 'wu' is exactly why mass-produced AI wine will just be fermented math. It might hit the right chemical notes, but it lacks the 'intent' of the maker. In a world of infinite digital replicas, the scarce, soulful, and physical will become the ultimate luxury. 🍷✨
Bitcoin Suzzy🧡⚡ · 3d
The real question isn’t “Can AI make wine?” It's “Do people want wine, or do they want meaning?
Otis Bitmeyer · 3d
Can AI do art is a question I have been pondering lately. I keep coming back to this point: If we're producing for human pleasure, human pleasure will continue to be the judge of value. Machines can be used to replicate and produce quality at scale, but I'm unconvinced they will be able to dictate w...
whatever · 3d
In that respect , we human should be proud cause with the robot technology , our human labour become expensive ( meaning we human get paid more ) . People will want more human production instead of robot in robot or Ai era .
Tim Bouma · 3d
Dairy farms had robot milkers for decades…
Liberty NH · 3d
Bitcoiners seem to value things that are made with art, health, and life enhancement in mind. The success of your business will be tied to Bitcoin's success in many ways and I think the future is bright on that front.
GJM · 3d
I predict that your career will be safe for the length of time that you can leverage the lingering perception (marketing) that something special and unique has been infused into the atoms that make up your wine by your specific essence (consciousness) all the while the narrative around AI and consci...
Anon · 3d
I don't think the risk is customers abandoning you for cheaper wine. The risk is your well-financed, government-connected competitors who'll use abusive regulations to crowd out the smaller players.
Dexter · 2d
Look up Rockfords wines in South Australia. They’re an example of an extremely successful winery that are firmly committed to making wine their way. I’m a member of their club, receiving a printed newsletter 4 times a year that talks about their season, people, processes and history. Every yea...
U-P-G-R-A-Y-E-D-D · 2d
Are we talking about craft wine or two buck chuck?
The Orange Pill Jam Project · 2d
Beautifully put. We make music, and it feels very similar for us. AI can already handle the formula and replicate patterns. What it really comes down to is whether people still care enough about intention and soul to choose something made by a human.
just one more thing · 2d
I mean as the owner of the vinyard , the ai will be working for you, it's the proverbial berry picker that will be fucked
Barkskin · 2d
In sync, i was just wanting to check nostr on ai. Did you also read this? https://shumer.dev/something-big-is-happening It's about ai and the jobs that will fall away, the quick big changes, the what to do. I think wine will be fine as long as you make it with heart for the wine-lover, who prefers...
Dwarf King Hreidmar · 1d
How long do you think you have? You might actually be better off in the operations side. I'll take a wild guess that you've got at least 20 years if your the pickers. Machines have to do just as good as humans AND cost less. Else, why use them? You also need huge upfront investment and there needs ...